User Posts Account of Sonic Boom Armageddon Expo Episode

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1. This episode is so stupid; it’s painfull and this is exactly what I expected, I hope the over-enthusiastic fans will stop dreaming about the possibility that this show will ever be good now.

   1. This episode looks like shit, but that doesn’t make the whole show so. Prospects don’t look good, but there’s still reasonable room for optimism.

      1. Is there? How many bad episodes do there need to be before we stop hoping the next one will break the trend?

         1. More than one…?

         2. What Chaos Controller said. I myself am not optimistic about this show, I said way back when this was first revealed that I was “cautiously pessimistic” and even that’s gone now. To me, you only get one episode to hook me (anime only gets the intro song/sequence), and this failed. That said, I can definitely see people still hoping for the best out of this.

         3. There’s also the game to consider, which I believe is of the same writers, and several of the promo trailers and teasers.. What we’ve seen so far hasn’t exactly instilled confidence in the direction they’ve chosen to take this. People certainly have the right to remain optimistic, but at some point we’ve got to stop calling it “reasonable”.

   2. *facepalm* Your judging an ENTIRE TV series over one episode. That’s what I call jumping to conclusions too quickly.

2. This made laugh purely out of shock at how utterly abominable it sounded.

   I dare someone to come at me and defend this tripe.

   1. I would. But I take a meander at the utter petulance in your previous posts, and have to resist the overpowering compulsion to regurgitate at the faux sardonic tone within your posts your try to adopt to give yourself a free pass to try and put down everyone opinions merely because they’re not adequate to your own standards.

      It’s absolutely awe inspiring the length how insipid if as well as moronic a person can be to waste their time showing up religious to this board as often as they can with little constructive thought to add. However, I suppose when some people’s ego’s are so small that such petty and petulant actions give them some form of joy, the stupidity that they can achieve upon this site can become absolutely boundless.

      Thank you 100Rings. Your embodiment of such a pitiful cliche is an a shining example to us all. By all mean, please continue. I’m certain that the mere observation of such can provide me with no end of bemusement.

3. Wait, I’m sorry, what is this all about?
   I’m not the best at following along.

4. So the show isn’t that good?
   What do you expect from the first episode?

   1. Usually that’s the best one since it’s made to attract an audience.

      Imagine the rest of the show ewww

      1. There are definitely a lot of shows with weak pilot episodes, considering they’re usually the ones pitched to executives. It’s a combination of them not yet being used to writing for the characters and thus they’re rather clumsily written (like Space Dandy) or them intending to appeal to those executives and thus is more meant to say, “This show can generate big ratings!” than them wanting to tell the story they want to tell (like The Fairly OddParents).

         1. Don’t dis the Dandy, baby!

5. I think it’s woerth pointing out that this person’s opinion was that it’s pretty good. Here’s an excerpt:

   “I found it quite funny actually. No Sticks in this episode, unusually…I look forward to watching future episodes….especially with all the juicy Sonamy stuff =D”

   I’d have to reserve my opinions on the show until I can watch it for myself. A plot summary like this tells me nothing of a show’s quality; it’s all in the execution. However, I can say, from reading the summary, that it sounds like your typical children’s cartoon show from the past 30 years. (And I’ve seen a LOT.)

   The tryouts type plot has been done many times in the past. Sometimes, it’s done well (South Park’s “Professor Chaos”). Sometimes, it’s done not-so-well (Dexter’s Laboratory’s “Dee Dee and the Man”). Sometimes, it’s somewhere in between (My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic’s “May the Best Pet Win!”). I’m wondering who wrote this episode, considering Dave Polsky wrote “May the Best Pet Win!,” and he’s a writer for Sonic Boom.

   1. Thats a problem you know, if it sounds typical its generic meaning that its not a sonic show but a childrens cartoon. At least if your gonna make a cartoon about sonic make it….sonic and not a generic cartoon where sonics face is just a quick cash grab on that remaining fame. The humor should be things that could actualy happen in sonics universe, dont set them up in situations they would never put themselves through because *comedy show for kids*.

      1. I think I’d enjoy it, considering I’ve always loved this kind of show. I loved them when I was a kid, and I love them now.

      2. You just described AoStH.

      3. Just because it doesn’t a story or a deep message doesn’t mean it’s generic. There’s TONS of non-story, bizarre cartoons that are unique and great. Secondly, reading something is totally different from watching it. This especially implies to films and T.V shows.

         1. Its not unique by what we have seen of it and its constantly breaking character. Eggman would never hang out with sonic and he would never apply as a side kick. This kind of humor where the villain is just a looser is very common which the humor in general seems to be. Its old, its overplayed, its generic and its boring. Well ofcourse this goes without saying that this is my view on it. Unless you realy love cartoons there will be no reason to watch this since its not staying true to the sonic universe and how its characters work.

6. *Sigh*

   Not surprising.

7. P.S. I’d also like to ask anyone who feels like answering: What would you have wanted Sonic Boom to be like?

   I ask this because this summary sounds like it’d fit right in Garfield and Friends, The Amazing World of Gumball, Freakazoid!, and all sorts of other Saturday morning type comedy children’s animated television.

   1. *I ask this because this summary sounds like it’d fit right in Garfield and Friends, The Amazing World of Gumball, Freakazoid!, and all sorts of other Saturday morning type comedy children’s animated television.*

      Exactly the problem.

      1. Why’s that? I don’t see the problem in that. Sonic’s a talking blue oversized hedgehog. That sounds like a cartoon character to me.

   2. Not a comedy and not for toddlers.

      1. None of those shows I mentioned are aimed at toddlers, and I’ve always thought that Sonic lends himself better to comedy than drama. Unless that’s not what you meant.

   3. All of those shows are far and above what this is shaping up to be though, especially Freakazoid!. Gumball actually has a lot of meta art-style humor as well as slice-of-life humor.

      1. Yeah, hence why I pointed out in an earlier comment that it’s all in the execution.

         1. I see that now, I missed it somehow.

8. Wow…As ususal Sonic Boom is garbage and nobody will be watching it. I hope it gets cancelled by the second or thrid episode.

9. To Skai Cyan: Oh, I love Space Dandy. I just felt the pilot episode was not that good. It became a lot stronger from the second episode and onwards.

   Space Dandy is perhaps my favorite show of 2014. I love it to pieces.

   1. It wasn’t was it, lol. I almost dropped it then and there myself, but the name Shinichiro Watanabe made me give it a second shot. SO glad I did.

      1. Yeah, I personally felt the first episode was just there to give you an idea of what the main characters were like, then to display the show’s absurdity, but it spent too much time being silly for the sake of being silly.

         I suppose with the pilot out of the way, the show’s writers were free to just go nuts. Especially Kimiko Ueda, whose episodes tend to be the standouts (she did the zombie episode, the racing episode, and the second season’s parallel Dandy episode).

         1. Out of the goofy episodes those were some of my favorites, gotta admit that I don’t really pay that close attention to who writes which episode though.

10. I heard that Dish Network has dropped all Turner channels, which includes Cartoon Network/Adult Swim, Boomerang, truTV, CNN, HLN, and TCM. I hope this gets resolved fast, as those could harm the ratings for the show.

    1. Not true–I use the DISH Network, and I still watch Cartoon Network all the time.

       I’ll get around to watching Steven Universe eventually…

11. I just read the plotline, and honestly… I didn’t see anything wrong with it.

    I mean, it’s not a DEEP or COMPLEX plot that leaves the viewer wondering about the mysteries of life, but it seems like an entertaining time-waster (like most cartoons, actually). It’s goofy and silly, but it has some character development and nice action scenes. Plus the animation is nicely done.

    It may not be as engaging as SatAM or “Underground” (yeah, I said it), but I’m already liking the show more than AoStH or X.

    1. Nothing wrong with saying Underground is engaging. It tried to do something a bit different, and it kinda sorta more or less worked, in a way.

       The songs were almost universally terrible though.

12. So, let me get this straight.

    Some guy went to a screening of a Sonic Boom episode, goes on Tumblr to roughly describe us what the episode was about and people judge it as the full episode and start complaining and say that it sucks without even having seen said episode.

    Wow! People are morons.

    Here’s an idea: instead of bashing Sonic Boom (both games and TV show) and say it sucks without even having experienced it in any shape or form, how about waiting for the stuff to come out so you can truly make yourselves an opinion and say whether it sucks or not?

    1. inb4 your comment gets torn apart by people with nothing better to do than post on every Boom-related article how much they don’t care for Boom

       1. I’ll just let these idiot complain. If they truly are childish enough to say to Boom sucks despite the fact that they haven’t experienced it yet, then they should really grow the hell up and learn to give things the benefit of the doubt.

    2. Do you got nothing better to do in life then to stroke your own horn? If you actualy thought a bit deeper about the issue instead of thinking about how smart you are you would understand that people would like to actualy care for the show but nothing presented about it is appealing and thus people are disapointed.

       Also the whole try it before you make an opinion is the dumbest excuse to ever try anything, we have seen a lot of footage besides this article and we can pretty much see how the show will work out. Your basicaly asking people to hit themselves with a hammer cause even if you have the information that it will hurt you truly dont know untill you have hit yourself with it.

       1. Nothing presented about the show is appealing? Well, I don’t know, I’ve seen plenty of people that enjoyed the trailers and are truly looking forward to Boom. Both games and TV shows.

          “Also the whole try it before you make an opinion is the dumbest excuse to ever try anything” Oh! So your telling me that you can make yourself a true opinion just by looking at a bunch of trailers? Remember when Metroid Prime was announced and people said it was going to suck because the trailers “make it look like a Metroid FPS”? Well, guess what? They bought the game anyway and realized that the game was awesome and all the fears and apprehensions the trailers gave those people were gone. So, yeah, waiting to try something out for yourself, even with a demo, is the best way to go.

          This isn’t about me “tooting my own horn”, this is about me sharing my opinion and emitting the possibily that Sonic Boom might not be as bad as it seems to some people. If it is really bad, I’ll admit it. If it’s good, I’ll enjoy it. But I’m not jumping to conclusions like most people are.

          1. Well we were not talking about the people who already think boom looks good so i dont see the relevance :/

             Yes thats what im telling you and please dont use people who dont look further than a first glance as a reference, people who complained about it looking like an FPS obviously didnt bother to look at more then the first person view of the game. I thought it looked great and bought it and i didnt get disapointed cause i actualy use my brain when looking at stuff. Also that was a transition from 2D to 3D, worrying about change is pretty darn normal since the game will not be the same as before. You can say what you want about it actualy being good but the fact is that metroid prime is very different from the 2D metroid games. just that in this case it was good improvements that fitted the tone of the metroid games. Also did you just notice that you confirmed my other point? they wanted to like it so they bought it, they didnt complain just to complain.

             If this wasnt about you tooting your own horn than you could have skipped the everybody are idiots part and just say that you think it looks good and proceed to explain why. Treating people like morons and giving them tips that has been said to death is not the best way to share your opinion.

          2. “please dont use people who dont look further than a first glance as a reference” Well, isn’t that what people above in this comment section have been doing this whole time?

             “Also did you just notice that you confirmed my other point? they wanted to like it so they bought it, they didnt complain just to complain.” You do realize that’s what I’ve been talking about all along? They watched the trailers, had a few apprehensions but bought it anyway and were relieved that the game was good. They give it a chance before passing judgment instead of just saying “Well this looks like crap! I’m not buying it!”

             Now, I agree that me calling people idiots and all that was a bit unnecessary and I apologize. I know it wasn’t really the best approach but it’s just that people who judge a book by its cover really piss me off.

          3. @Marvin
             ExCUSE ME!? He has a right to defend Sonic Boom. Same is said for everyone else who is looking forward to it, including me.

          4. Congratulations to Pandolo Fox for creating the “Worst Backpedal of All-Time”.

             Very impressive.

       2. Your basicaly asking people to hit themselves with a hammer cause even if you have the information that it will hurt you truly dont know untill you have hit yourself with it.

          That’s quite the strawman you’ve built there. When you’re done, are you going to donate it to the next Burning Man festival?

          1. I made an extreme comparison on purpose but if you want to be funny about it instead of actualy disprove my point thats up to you realy.

          2. It’s a strawman; it renders your whole argument moot.

          3. A strawman argument is by definition invalid. You based your whole argument on a strawman, and that is why it’s moot.

          4. I can see that you do not want to listen to what i have to say, i know fully well what a strawman is. Why dont you read my comments again to get the full context of what im saying instead of hangin on to that one sentence i made.

          5. I have read everything you’ve written, and it all hinges on your strawman. And if you know what one is, why did you use it?

          6. Actualy im gonna have to apologise for being a bit immature, its my responibilty as the one converting the message to make sure that my point is understood.

             I used an extreme case on purpose to make it clear that it was a strawman, my point is that the whole you dont know untill you tried argument is a strawman as a whole since there is no facts supporting this kind of claim. Its realy just a conversation killer since it cant be totaly disproven either since we have cases when people actualy have changed their minds when trying things they didnt like at first glance ( i would argue that these people were already confused to begin with but whatever realy ).

          7. @RaceProUk

             Just get back to your My Little Poney instead protecting that piece of garbage that Sonic Boom is.

          8. Yeah, I don’t watch My Little Pony. Saw one episode; couldn’t stand it.

          9. Congratulations to Pandolo Fox for creating the “Worst Backpedal of All-Time”.

             Very impressive.

          10. Congratulations Chaos controller for not adding anything to this topic and just showing of what a smug person you are.

          11. Errox025 sorry didnt notice that you had given me an answer so heres my answer to those points.

              No it is not what everybody above has been doing, some might but not everyone. theres a clear difference between only looking at something from one view and analyzing the content as a whole. Saying oh first person shooter by just a glance is very different from commenting about how characters are no longer the characters they were before and how dull the whole comedy seems to be. there are deeper explanations behind this than simply oh first person view, it seems to suck.

              Uhm no that is not what you have been talking about, you mentioned it after me. In the beginning it was just you ranting.

              No need to apologize this is the internet, getting frustrated is pretty common. Either way this show doesnt look interesting at all for me, i might check it out since it doesnt cost me anyting to watch it but from what ive seen of it im highly disapointed.

13. What did you people expect? We were told that this is a comedy show made by Cartoon Network so I expected it to be something like the amazing world of Gumball. So far its turning out almost exactly as I expected it, though I’d welcome a somewhat deep story. I wouldn’t hold my breath for future episodes to go much further than this in terms of story but(again) this isn’t surprising.

    1. Given each episode is stand-alone and only 11 minutes long, there won’t be any deep stories; there just isn’t time to tell them properly 🙂

       1. Adventure Time pulled it off, albeit in a way that spans many, many episodes.

          That being said, it’s pretty evident this is not what Sonic Boom is trying to do. (I like The Amazing World of Gumball though.)

14. And….. everyone is whining and complaining already based off of some words. You actually have to see it to hate it. Atleast Errox025, Pandolo Fox some other people are being smart. If you don’t like Sonic Boom, why bother to continue to rant and bash a show that is meant to appeal to six year olds. And if it is that bad, go watch one of the other Sonic cartoons or something.

15. The episode descriptions sounds kinda underwhelming, but I’m sure the other episodes mentioned like “Translate This” and “Can An Evil Genius Crash on Your Couch For a Few Days?” Will be much better.

    When Teen Titans Go! first started, I hated it. But now It’s one of my favorite shows. People need to give the writers of the show a chance. This is the first episode, they need to get settled into the universe they created. It’s not gonna be an amazing show off the bat. Lots of great shows had awful beginnings. (Simpsons, Family Guy, Adventure Time) but they improved over time.

    I think a lot of people are complaninig becuase it’s comedy-based. I can understand wanting a more serious Sonic, but we’ve had that with SatAM, and Sonic X to an extent. This is just a spinoff, not the main series, so I can roll with a more comedic take. (The movie better have a serious, Sonic Adventure-like feel to it though)

16. It could have been worst if you don’t like it.

17. . (How Sonic permit eggman which almost kill tails to join the race that hire new sidekick????
    Consider this Ugly contradiction, I’m sure that other episode have contradiction like this.

    1. From what I got, Sonic never seriously considered bringing Dr. Eggman on as his sidekick.

       It’s that thing done in comedy sometimes where the villain will sometimes just do normal ordinary things when they’re not committing villainy. Very common in American animation.

18. For some reason, i like this comment section.

19. Wow all of this just from someones prospective (that I might add was positive) I think some of these assumptions are a tad over the top. I looked over the trailers of this episode again and I Personally can see this working out very well.

    Now don’t get me wrong I dislike Teen Titans Go humor and don’t want Boom to tred too deep into that territory. Regarding the contradictory, Obviously Sonic doesn’t want Tails to get hurt because of him, even in the trailers he said ” I was just trying to protect you” while Tails replied ” by putting me in more danger?” referring to the race where Burn Bot comes back and starts attacking him, hence why sonic said “The plan had holes!” There’s a lot of things left out and its all about execution.

    I myself feel you (general you) should experience something for yourself and respect the opinions of those who enjoy it (or dislike it), sometimes you have to come to terms that people just have different taste but belittling someones taste shows you yourself is a tad bitter.

    Lack of compassion towards others reflect who you really are.

    Got off topic for a sec but that’s my two cents : V

    ~Spirit

    1. I know you want to try to look at the bright side, but this just screams Colors and Lost World all over again.

       Sonic doing that whiny nasal kid voice like he doesn’t want to be blamed because he’s too perfect. And Tails is just like that again : bragging and cynical, yet treated and acts (although less here) like a wimp. Their relationship, just like the Colors Era games, seems only based on jabs, bickering, calling each other’s stupidity/incompetence.

       It just doesn’t feel like a real friendship anymore. It’s more like a forced co-work situation in office.

       What kind of friend decides to “fire” his friend just to “protect him” ?

       I don’t now. It sounds too forced and contrived, and the characters are just so unlikably portrayed.

       Off-topic, congrats for Sonic Misadventures, man ! =D
       I really hope you’re gonna take in account the Storybook games (Secret Rings and Black Knight) for Sonic’s personality and portrayal, other than the SA games. The less Misadventures hae in common with the Colors Era, the better.

       Small nitpick : do you really want to give Sonic Roger’s voice ?
       I don’t know, he sounds so bored and detached and old for him. Ryan and Jason sounded youthful and energetic, but also mature. But hey ! If you want to keep it like that, that’s you choice. 😉

       1. It all comes down to prospective, I personally wouldn’t compare this to colors or lost world, especially since the writer is the same for Pacman Ghostly adventures (shivers If I hear the phrase “Pacster” one more time..) In my prospective this Sonic still has growing up to do, he just felt bad because well he prides himself, what happens when all that ego all that confidence in saving the day is shattered, this Sonic isn’t perfect and I find that relatable.

          From what they described the characters this Tails is the kid brother, looks up to Sonic, wants to show he can dish out just as much as the rest of the guys, but like any friendship there’s bumps and he isn’t afraid to tell Sonic If hes wrong. If everything was perfect that would be boring, I feel they gave these characters so much more life but again that’s my prospective.

          It all comes down to the execution and I have to reserve judgement till I actually see it but I do agree it was literately out of nowhere in lost world and felt VERY forced.

          As for Sonic Misadventures we wanted to keep things modern for the most part, I feel Roger has a lot of energy and personality, some traits I feel both the Jason (who I love) and Ryan lacked in a way.

          Though I will note Roger has been… very hit and miss, I fault the directors for this inconsistency. One trailer I thought he sounded great! in another its just like what you said detached and just kind of saying words with weird emphasis.

          Think of this as Rogers on his good days (haha) but don’t worry we do not intend to have stale characters, we REALLY want to bring out the best of these characters!

          Thanks for the comment man 🙂

          Spirit ~

       2. When writing comedy, people will very often make the main characters unsympathetic to a degree. This is so that you can laugh at the characters without feeling bad for them when something unpleasant happens to them. Comedic sociopathy doesn’t work when the characters are too sympathetic.

          Shows like Seinfeld and Ed, Edd, ‘n’ Eddy would not function nearly as well if there wasn’t a core cast full of jerks and egotists.

20. *cough* Reading a summary of a episode isn’t the same as watching it. It all depends on how well the timing and pacing is. Really? Cursing the entire show off after reading a written summary? You guys are so adorable. :3

    1. It isn’t, but it gives you a general idea of what will happen. Not to mention that half of this episode was already spoilered by the E3 TV Show trailer.

       And they are still trying hard to convey Sonic and Tails’ “friendship”…..

       Of course, when I’ll get the occasion, I’ll watch it on streaming (since it won’t arrive in Europe), but it already looks bland, uninspired, pathetic and forced.

    2. Yeah because the way “Knuckalina” is timed will make all the difference, right?

       Hop up out with that BS.

       1. You can at least watch the episode before being so negative….

          1. I am so…..sick of sensative ovary fanboys crying about negativity.

             I wouldn’t be negative if I had NOTHING TO BE NEGATIVE ABOUT.
             The plot sounds awful and medicore at best. And you know it. Instead of complaining about negativity why not demand better? Lapping up this slop won’t get us anywhere.

             The negativity will not cease until demads are met.

             Absolutely no one asked for another corny saturday morning cartoon Sonic show….no one. Trying to cram it down our throats isn’t going to make anyone change their mind about it. The content is LAME. Period. Sonic the Sitcom was never asked for so it will be rejected. Maube if it was a bit more appealing it would be welcomed a bit more warmly.

             Yes I know. Engaging content is foreign to you people.

          2. @100Rings

             lol Holy shit, you sound so pissed. XD

          3. @100Rings

             “I wouldn’t be negative if I had NOTHING TO BE NEGATIVE ABOUT.”

             Says the guy who complains about Sonic being on NINTENDO consoles. >>

          4. @ 100Rings

             Well, actually, you’re not being negative. You’re being an ass-hat. There’s a distinct difference.

21. Oh LOL ! More contrived and forced pseudo-drama in the FAKE and forced “friendship” of Sonic and Tails.

    Sonic looks already to be the same apathetic, self-righteous asshole from Colors, Generations and Lost World. And still, he wants Tails to be a wimp because “he cares for him”.

    Tails is soooooo gonna be like Lost World again. It’s a given.

    Amy being stupid……and boring.

    Knuckles being stupid……..and even more boring.

    Eggman, it has been already shown he’s still a moron. Although, upgrading his robot MIGHT be an improvement….

    Notice also how it says that Tails takes his firing “casually”. Yep, this crap is gonna be Colors, Generations and Lost World all over again. To hell with it.

    Damage controllers, eat your hearts out !

22. Unless Sonic Boom does some shaping up, I am passing on it for now. I hoped for much better but it looks like Star Wars Rebels is by and large going to be my top cartoon series this year.

    Sega, if you are reading this, please understand: There is a point where being ridiculous can be get out of hand and backfire on you, and you have already long past it. While ignoring all the character and story potential that is at your disposal, Sonic Boom has become way too much of a comedy–and a bad one at that–to be interesting for many people here like myself. On the other hand, Star Wars Rebels, which is perhaps your biggest competitor for screen time, does have some comical moments but it also has enough interesting plot conflicts and character dynamics going on to make me want to rewatch it to see what the next week’s chapter has in store.

    The moral of story: If you want to gain a loyal audience, don’t just try making Sonic Boom a laugh out loud fest, which, by the way, it really isn’t that good at anyway. Sprinkling in comedy is good but it is only funny if you know how much of it to do and when and where to do it. Instead, focus mainly on the strengths in this imaginary world so you can give us some good reasons to want to tune in, like showing us the characters as they really are and putting the important struggles they are facing front and center. That way, we can begin to become emotionally attached to them. If not, this is going to continue to get boring and old fast for more and more people.

23. Okay…….. Some of these comments are way too dramatic! Let’s take two steps back… This a series in which the main character is an anthropomorphic hedgehog who fights a bald fat man with a large mustache….. Yeah… Sonic was never the best when it tries to do story telling and that’s okay…. Because when you think about it the concept is silly! Sonic Boom is something for new the new generation or whatever. I personally think Sonic works better when not trying to be too serious or story driven. The franchise was never about story anyway. Besides when you have a show all about story, chances are when you miss a couple episodes you’re screwed!! This is just 11 minute episodes of nonsense stories which is fine because ,when ya think about it, the series is a bunch of nonsense ideas that became a thing. It’s just odd to see people complain about a kiddy series not being so kiddy. It’s like that Super Mario movie that tried to hard to have a story and be realistic only for it to fall flat on its face. So say you will….. Just think about this… Sonic is a blue talking hedgehog in a colorful world of fantasy who saves woodland critters from a fat man.

    1. I think you haven’t payed attention to Sonic’s universe before since you are mostly talking about the popular internet misconception of the roots. Sonic’s world was way more down to earth than you think. It was serious (there’s no comedy in the classics). The setting wasn’t abstract and often included realistic-looking cities in the BG. For your comment about the concept being silly; it has no factual value. Every pieces of fiction is silly because it’s fiction yet this is not a reason to be lame. Sonic’s latest lame writing just expose ST’s lack of confidence in the series and it turns off their audience. Sonic has never been that unpopular since a long time and I bet lacking of stimulation is one of the biggest reason for that. As Conflicting Views said:

       ”Then you get to the arguments about why the series tone should be one way over another, based on the fact that it is a “cartoon hedgehog”. This is a recent blanket statement that I’m sure everyone’s heard. This is one argument that chaps my ass like you wouldn’t believe because they are implying that Sonic games… shouldn’t be appealing at all because the original concept is “silly” to them.”

       Sonic lost its appeal because the creators were corrupted by the lack of confidence of the vocal internet audience. Now all they want is to prove ”they are aware Sonic is silly” by corrupting the very concept of the series with tons of unfunny comedy as if being serious was some sort of sex-deviant sin.

24. If you explain anything in an intentionally silly way, it is. You could use silly explanations for every mediocre show there is to explain away its problems. It makes more sense to be realistic than naïve.

    1. Okay then, I’ll be realistic, you’re complaining about something you cannot control. Sonic Boom whether you like it or not WILL happen and WILL gain some kind of following. Example: My Little Pony another show with nonsensical episodes and plots has a large following. (Don’t know why but it does!)
       There’s nothing wrong with shows being kid oriented! Especially the Sonic franchise which is based for kids but still has older followers. (Just like MLP.)

       1. As someome who has seen every episode, I can say that Friendship Is Magic (generation 4) is anything but nonsensical.

          Well, the setting is really weird, but it has its own internal logic that remains consistent through the whole series, as any fantasy setting should have. I can definitely see why it’d look nonsensical and bewildering to someone who has only seen one or two episodes though.

          It definitely confused me a bunch at first too. “Spike at Your Service” was the first episode I saw. After watching it again with knowledge of the previous two seasons, it made a lot more sense. Still not a very good episode though. Incidentally, “Spike at Your Service” was an episode thoroughly torn apart by the Bronies BECAUSE it violated its internal logic (namely in the dragons’ code of ethics, which contradicted the earlier episode “Dragon Quest,” and that Spike was acting wildly out of character).

          I spent about a year trying to figure out how the show got so popular, and along the way, I started liking it. I could explain why it’s popular, but it’s incredibly complicated, something of a perfect storm of several events coming together in a short amount of time.

          But this show is a topic for another day. I am open to any questions people have about the show though.

       2. In general, a cartoon does not have to “dumb” (nonsensical, slapstick) to appeal to a large audience. Just look at Star Wars Rebels I just mentioned above. In one episode, they refer to lightsaber style form III, briefly in a side comment, all while still keeping the show funny and exciting for everyone. In the very same episode, they describe entire perimeter and internal defenses of a prison they are breaking into, and they still keep the dialogue simple and silly so kids still get into it. Dumbing down scripts is what amateurs and quick cash grab attempts do. On the other hand, a well-crafted story can be layered so that a kid and an adult can both get into it. Anyway, interestingly and statistically, more kids and adults enjoy well-rounded than those targeting specific demographics.

          By the way, My Little Pony may be popular among some adults but the brony population is still only small fraction compared to other fan followings of other children series. For example, more adults watch Disney, Marvel and DC Comics and Looney Tunes cartoons than My Little Pony.

25. So…who IS the writer of this episode anyway?

    I’m guessing it’s not Dave Polsky, considering, as I mentioned before, he’s already done this story in 2012.

    And yes, I do enjoy watching My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. Take of that as you will.

26. My video would have the merch that I bought, the arm-wrestling thing and a mention of the Sonic trivia game which was on the Sunday, but I didn’t do that since I was playing Smash Bros with a good friend instead. Woops.

    I have a feeling it was probably best that I didn’t post it. I’d get bombarded. You would have seen all the plushies on my bed too and called me insane.
    But feel free to ask me questions! Either on my tumblr or here.

27. See, this shit is why the Sonic franchise gets mocked by the gaming community all the time. Not because of this show, but because of all of the embarrassing amounts of whining and overreacting that the fanbase does about *everything*.

    I read the synopsis and it sounds totally fine. In fact, it actually sounds kind of funny.

    But, oh, how dare a cartoon about a character who was DIRECTLY INSPIRED by Mickey Mouse be light-hearted and silly. Good heavens, what a travesty. Clearly the series is at it’s best when it’s taking itself way too seriously and presenting us with pretentious, poorly written and acted plots. If it’s not serious-face or tickling everybody’s rose-tinted, retro, stuck-in-the-past buttholes, then it’s obviously complete tripe.

    Give me a freakin’ break.

    1. Nobody cares about the Sonic fandom. The only ones that think the community is dumb are butthurt Sonic fans when they feel they aren’t on the side of the majority. That’s an emotional reaction just like the famous ” *game* is overated” since the goal is to insult the oponment’s taste.

       And besides I don’t see how not liking something is an overreaction, but i’m slighty amused by this message that is a super overreaction. Sonic was inspired by Bill Clinton and the creator wanted it to be edgy. Maybe you should read a little bit more about Sonic’s origins.

       The classic games aren’t funny, there’s no jokes in these games, the whole ”sonic is funny” thing is a total misconception of the roots. The Sonic Adventure series is the true continuation of the classics and yes it should go back to this. The kiddy comedy route is a turnoff for most of the fans and the kids too. The sales keep declining since it’s like that; it only made the natural audience being bored by Sonic.

       1. ‘Speedy blue hedgehog fights fat man with massive orange moustache’ doesn’t exactly scream serious drama…

          1. Yes because Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 are such innapropriate serious dramas, the Shindler’s List is a joke in comparison.

             Maybe you are too sensitive for video games, you mix up drama and flow.

          2. We’re doing THIS now??
             Yup, we are…..

             Spiderman is a series about a teenage boy that gets bit by a radioactive spider and gains the ability to climb walls, shoot webbing and dress completely in a blue and red spandex bodysuit. He fights villains such as a magician with a fish bowl stuck on his head, a bird man, and a mentally challenged individual that disguises himself as a self entitled “green goblin”. Such a silly concept right?

             Why in the world did Spiderman’s uncle have to die? He was killed by a petty criminal in a horrible twist of fate. Death and anything edgy surely doesn’t belong in such a silly concept! Kill off the edge! Why did one of Spiderman’s closest friends have to get overtaken and eventually killed by a parasitic “symbiote” that fed off of his anger and other negative emotions? This stuff is way too serious for a kid’s series and should be cut out at once. Who does Stan Lee think he is for God’s sake!?

             RacePro how many times must you demonstrate your stupefying, dombfounding idiocy before you are satisfied? If your goal is to convince me and the other few sane commenters that you are indeed an idiot, than you have surely accomplished this goal in spades. No need for any further demonstrations. I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, you are indeed one of the single most ox-brained dullards this website has ever bore witness to.

          3. You both refuse to believe it’s possible to have both comedy and drama in the same thing? That’s what’s truly stupid.

          4. 100 Rings.

             Makes an extremely weak comparison to Spider-Man which is a completely different, unrelated series, personally attacks another person for his views on Sonic the Hedgehog, then claims to be “sane”.

             Looks like he showed us! Checkmate!!

       2. The internet thinks the Sonic fandom is a joke. That is very common knowledge.

          Sonic was not inspired by Bill Clinton. He was inspired by Mickey Mouse and Felix the Cat.

          You are wrong on almost all counts.

          1. Design-wise, yes, but attitude-wise, Clinton was an inspiration for Sonic’s

    2. By starting to complain about others complaining your already putting yourself into the whinning fanbase that complains about *everything* If you think this is the problem then why add to it?

       Also your ranting about serious content at the very same post, your credibility is lost quite frankly.

       1. Calling out the fanbase on how stupid it’s being does not place me in the same boat as the fanbase. That’s stupid, and makes no sense.

          And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with Sonic having some serious storytelling. I love the Archie Comics, and I think that Sonic: Unleashed may arguably have the best executed story in the entire series.

          But, don’t put “Sonic Adventure” and “Sonic Adventure 2” up on these pedestals, like they’re these masterworks of storytelling. They weren’t. They both had very dumb, poorly written plots. Sure, they were ambitious. That doesn’t make them good.

28. Fuck sake you guys are some salty motherfuckers when it comes to comedy in cartoons. It’s not like the two things have ever been in cahoots since inception or anything.

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    1. The problem is we don’t want Sonic to be a comedy. Sonic isn’t a comedy.

       1. Correction: you don’t want it to be a comedy. Others, myself included, do. Unless you’re genuinely claiming to speak for all fans, in which case, what makes you so special?

          1. I certainely speak for the majority of the natural audience considering Sonic being so unpopular since they started the comedy route. Not mentionning the bad reception of the news about Pontaff being back. Yes, i’m pretty much confident about the fact that most of the fans are getting tired of the kiddy comedy route. The fans who speak with their wallet have the last word.

          2. I can say I like Sonic being a comedy. He lends himself well to such a thing.

             I don’t think the mainstream at large will ever take Sonic the Hedgehog as a franchise seriously enough for them to associate it with drama. The premise is just too ridiculous. They’re going to treat Sonic as a drama about as much as they treat Super Mario as a drama.

          3. Give me one example of comedy sitcom humor in any Sonic game before the tone shift in Sonic Colors.

             Make sure your reply is exceedingly stupid as it provides maximum entertainment for those who feel compelled to pay you far more attention than your irrelevant presence demands.

             This ought to be good.

          4. Sonic has been an action based character since the genesis days and yes there were more *drama* in the classics then there ever were comedy. Tails getting shot down from his plane in sonic 2, sonic escaping explosions in sonic 2. eggman burning down a whole forest in sonic 3 and knuckles, knuckles throwing a bomb at sonic thus taking out a whole building in sonic 3 and knuckles, metal sonic kidnapping amy and having a dramatic race in sonic CD and plenty more. To say that sonic never should have drama is kinda ignorant in my book since his games are like action movies.

          5. @Nafareas: Thought so; delusions of grandeur.

             @Pandolo Fox: Never said there shouldn’t be drama; drama and comedy are not mutually exclusive.

          6. @100 Rings
             Not to defend Sonic Boom, but there are sitcom-y scenes in Rush, Rush Adventure, Riders, and Zero Gravity. In the case of Rush and either Riders, they invariably involve Knuckles, Amy or both. In Rush Adventure’s case, they are about half of Marine’s scenes.

          7. @100Rings
             I’d also like to add to the list Sonic Battle, Sonic Chronicles, Sonic Free Riders, Sonic Unleashed, Sonic Shuffle, and Sonic Heroes.

             Any Sonic game that has a lot of dialogue that isn’t trying to be dramatic (which more often than not becomes melodramatic) will have at the very least dialogue meant to be comical.

             You need at least a bit of comedy for a drama. Otherwise, it’ll feel relentless and people will grow bored. That’s why comic relief characters exist.

          8. My reply wasnt for you RaceProUK but for ophelia, i must have pressed the wrong reply button, sorry about that.

          9. @Pandolo: Ah, it makes a bit more sense now 🙂
             I doubt Ophelia was saying there shouldn’t be drama, just that it’s not the main focus. And let’s face it, a franchise starring a speedy blue hedgehog, his twin-tailed friend, and a crazy fat man with a huge orange ‘tache isn’t exactly pitching for ‘film noir’ levels of seriousness 🙂

          10. Should also clarify, because it’s probably not obvious, that I like that Sonic Boom is a comedy. Sonic Team’s next game can be the serious one; they used to do that quite well actually. Not perfectly, but then nothing is perfect 🙂

          11. When someone says that its to silly to associete it with drama they practicaly mean that it should never be there. its a very strong word so if he truly meant that drama can be in the games then this word was not the right one to use at all. well mistakes happen so i might have read too much into it.

              Also i disagree with sonic being a silly concept since most work of fiction are silly in its concept if you simplefy it. Its not like i recent humor but this franchise has never had it as its main focus until colors. Im all for comedic moments and cute down played moments where characters just interact a bit but im against this sitcom rutine where nothing happens besides characters just standing around making jokes the whole game or in this case the whole show. Action like stories has its humor in cool oneliners and some good interaction that isnt trying too hard to be funny.

              Also the whole taking a hedgehog serious baffle me, if you dont want to take it serious then just dont do it, dont demand that the story should be a sarcastic way of it former self where people like me cant enjoy the story since the game or show keeps reminding me to not take it serious because its “silly”. I didnt take eggman blowing up the moon in sa2 “serious” i took it as a cool action scene which is what it was, after that moment we get a down played moment where rouge is telling eggman that he is behaving like a little kid ( this is good subtle humor in my books since it has story purpose, character developement purpose and can make you smile a bit at the same time ).

    2. Ophelia: what a series can have his comedic moments not a comedy, comedy means that the focus is the humor and sonic games have never had that as a focus until colors. As for the games you mentioned that had humor: Heroes is the most tolerable “lighthearted” story in sonic that has been told and that is because it has no comedy, you laugh at the interactions between the characters but they are not telling jokes but being a bit over the top in their way of doing things ( crazy amy is an example though i think this was the start of the horrible characterization that would soon befall her ), sonic riders does indeed have comedy but it also has a dramatic story that is more the focus then in colors ( granted that i did not like the comedy here either but i could suffer through it despite them treating knux like a flipping idiot ) Sonic rush adventure……I can say with certainty that most people didnt appreciate Marine at all and that all she was doing was stealing the spotlight from the other characters, that character however like some members of the chaotix is suited better for the comedy route than the rest of the cast. Sonic unleashed is pretty much the same as sonic riders, it has a bit of comedy in it but the story has the focus so i can suffer through the jokes, also in here the most jokes comes from the comic relief character chip but again mostly in here there is slap stick and silly cartoon humor. The characters are not performing a sitcom rutine as they have been doing in colors and so on.

       1. Comedy means something that makes you laugh or at least intended to make you laugh.

          Sonic Heroes definitely has that–you have the entire Team Chaotix quarter of the story. Their story even opens by Charmy barging into Vector’s office and causing him to fumble with Hanna-Barbera sound effects.

          You also have subcategories of comedy, as it’s one of the most broad genres of storytelling out there. Big the Cat’s story in Sonic Adventure, for instance, is a dramedy, which plays equally with comedy and drama.

          By the way, as a connoiseur of comedy, I despise one-liners. They have no place in the narrative unless used as character establishment. A comedy-action is best done with its characters, as the comedy then becomes important to the plot. Examples include Dragon Ball, Kim Possible, and most Jackie Chan films. (This is not including an action story using comedy as satire, like with No More Heroes or Tropic Thunder.)

          I also should say that I do not believe Sonic should always be a comedy. He can do comedy and drama, even at the same time. I am saying that Sonic has the potential for good comedy (and admittedly, good comedy is very hard to do and requires sharp coordination among many people).

    3. The point I’m leading with my post is all these years we’ve had stupid campy humor all the way up to Colors but without a cast that actually feels funny. They all acted like blank slates for super heroes who occasionally said some really dumb one liners: there was never a real expansion to their character.

       You can get butthurt all you want about how this new take changes the characters but for myself personally, I’ve wanted this for a long time. Sonic SHOULD be cocky, an asshole, and with more personality flaws than before. He’s not perfect. He’s supposedly a teen right? Now he actually reflects that in (again, what it feel) a three dimensionally written manner where his speech reflects that. Heck, this goes for everyone else too.

       If Mike Pollock was allowed to become an amazing Dr.Robotnik by adding more humor to him, why are so many of you so insistent on making sure Sonic and company never change? You can’t ask for something new and never sacrifice anything, that’s not how profession works, and in this case of a cartoon I personally welcome the era of a “Adventures of” kind of Sonic again.

       I don’t know if I’m in a minority or majority but what I do know is I’ve watched the trailers and ended up laughing constantly at each one. When the visuals show that the creators have fun with themselves, I personally feel the exact same way.

       Calm.

       The fuck.

       Down, guys.

       1. Meant to say “progression”…god damn this iPad autocorrect.

       2. To MM2: As you brought up how Sonic Boom feels like The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, I grew up on that series, and it was how I really got into Sonic. A lot of my classmates would play pretend with characters from that series.

          I think Sonic Boom would be great for the kids, and it’ll bring them into the franchise.

29. @Pandolo Fox

    THANK YOU. I agree with all of that, but i’m still okay with Boom being a comedy. It’s just a spinoff. The games do need to grow up a bit though. Wayyy too childish.

30. There’s a lot of clashing going on about this show. On one side people argue that Sonic is made for kids and that random/silly comedy is alright for the style it should be in. On the other side just because something is funny and kid oriented doesn’t mean it can’t take itself seriously at the same time by providing compelling plots and some darker tones.

    Personally, I like the idea of the Sonic Boom cartoon. I don’t think it’s the way Sonic should be (for kids) or that it’s a train wreck because of its silly style. I just plain like it. Other people, on the other hand, don’t like it, and that’s okay.

    It all comes down to taste. I see this problem in a lot of the comment sections in the Sonic community. Everyone’s sharing their opinions and trying to justify why their opinion is ‘right.’ Well, there’s no right or wrong. There’s no 100% quick fox for the Sonic series because everyone has different ideas of what it should be. But instead of having structured conversations on the topic all I ever see is fighting.

    Of course, not everyone is that way but a lot of people are. This isn’t pointed at anyone: it’s just what I’ve observed. I like Sonic Boom. That’s not wrong because it’s based on personal taste. You may not like Sonic Boom. That’s alright too. Both sides just need to understand that just because someone else’s opinions don’t fit with yours doesn’t make them right or wrong.

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