Sonic Forces: “The World Was Conquered By Eggman, So What Was Sonic Doing ‘Till Then?”
We already knew that the story of Sonic Forces involved Eggman succeeding and Sonic failing. And we also knew that there would be multiple “forces” that would be battling for the planet, which include Eggman and his army, Sonic and his friends, and then some unknown forces. However, we don’t know how all this came to be. According to Shun Nakamura, the game’s producer, he tweeted out the following snippet: “the world was conquered by Eggman, so what was Sonic doing until then?”
That, we don’t know. But now we know that Sonic’s whereabouts play some kind of role in what led to the events of Sonic Forces.
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Probably trapped in the past or something… Sonic Mania?
Sonic about to pull a Samurai Jack.
Now the rodent seeks to return to the past (Mania), and undo the future that is EGGMAN… X)”
HOW MUCH LONGER CAN YOU KEEP THIS UP?!
Sonic Chronicles?
I was waiting for someone to suggest this.
Shane that it probably isn’t a “sequel” to Sonic Chronicles. (Return of Shade unlikely, if I’m understanding the Archie character issue)
This might be related to Sonic Chronicles. I don’t know what will sonic will do in this game, but both Sonic’s might fail.
It’s possible but not likely at all. If the actual story reason they give is dumb though then I’ll tell myself the events of Sonic Chronicles happened and Shade just hit the road before the game started.
Interesting, so if I were to hazard a guess as to how the story structure might work, it sounds like this would probably be a prologue level, then it would flash back to the events that took place before all that carnage and stuff. Sonic would probably go through whatever it is that is preoccupying him (being thrown into the past, another planet, just busy doing another adventure without even knowing what’s been going on, simply being led astray by Eggman, the possibilities are…never ending), then at some point this comes back as a revelation and you probably either play this level again or another variation of it, assuming we still get multiple acts that aren’t separated by character (give at least 2 to each character this time Sonic Team, or at least make the stages longer!), and then the story continues in a linear fashion. At least, that’s my theory anyway.
So…Eggman took over the world…Where’s GUN? Where’s Shadow? Where are the two Robot Goons who usually screw up Eggman’s plans because he builds incompetent robots?
I don’t believe it. This was Eggman Nega’s doing.
My thoughts
A). Sonic Chronicles just comes to mind because that cliff hanger ending is pretty much Eggman Conquering the world. (Long shot I know)
B). Maybe Eggman Nega did something that involved Blazes Dimension or time travel cause bs and plot. (Super long stretch)
C). Sonic Mania maybe ties into this and Sonic was stuck in the past. (Gotta get back. Back to the … Future? I hope Silver and time travel aren’t involved)
D.) Maybe Classic Sonic learning homing attack Generations altered the timeline? Or something alternate reality happened where Eggman just won in one of the games and Sonic is the one constantly failing now?
In the end my theory is this: Sonic wasn’t around to save the world or has been failing to keep the world safe multiple times and maybe JUST MAYBE, the 3rd new character is angry at Sonic or is tired of him for not doing a good job at protecting the world and that’s where his storyline kicks in. He’s a freedom fighter who wants to show that he can do a better job at beating Eggman and protecting the world.
This might be related to Sonic Chronicles. I don’t know what will sonic will do in this game, but both Sonic’s might fail. Looks like Eggman finally making his dream come true of setting his empire to motion.
Hmm. So, they should explain reasonably why Sonic failed. I think that determines completion of This game’s storyline
(But I wish that Sonic is defeated by eggman’s robots because of losing his power, exhaustion, etc… (I like the situation that Sonic gets hurt, injured.. etc :))
Fallibility makes a story a compelling one because dynamic contrast and human-like relatability are imparted into the conflict and characters. As said many articles ago, Sonic 3 & Knuckles had a great story because the best characters had foibles that made them real to the audience: the otherwise invincible Super Sonic lost his Emeralds to a chuckling Knuckles, Knuckles who thought he was defending his ancestors’island sanctuary got tricked by Eggman, and Tails
(by inference), though a fox-boy genius, was still too young and naive at the time to pick up on the trickery and exploiting behind it all. When otherwise strong and heroic characters we look up to fail, it makes us care about them even more and want for them to pick themselves up, dust themselves off, and right the wrongs and undo the mistakes that got them into this even worse fix than they were in before. It makes the victory at the end all the more satisfying and exquisite, and contrasting and inspiring. Think of it like your favorite sports team (e.g. the Patriots) that has been losing and losing during the final game and then at the final quarter, against all odds, not only do they begin to hold their defenses, but they summon previously unknown strength from the depths of their convictions, they actually push back and erase the exponential lead and overwhelming odds, and they clear a victory without a moment to spare.
This isn’t the news article for me to ask this, but i need an outlet and i fear if i go back to gameplay related articles, it will be ignored since the latest articles are what get commented on around here. So with that said, Does modern sonic returning to boost formula HAVE to mean he loses the spindash? I seem to remember them actively advertising that sonic had his spindash back when promoting Lost World and i think that was because they knew sonic without a spindash seems kind of strange. I certainly think it’s strange that unleashed didn’t have the spindash as part of sonic’s moveset from the getgo and it’s even more strange that that continued through 3 iterations of the boost formula. I’m really hoping that they took what they did with generation’s spindash Drift and simply take that to the next logical step. Which would be to be able to spindash while holding the drift triggers and tapping A, propelling you to boost level speeds without boosting after making tight turns, which would function alot like drifting in mario kart actually. This seems almost too obvious that i fear it might go right over someone’s head as it’s such a simple solution to adding the spindash to the boost formula. This would also add something new to the boost formula which seems to be the big complain right now, that we haven’t seen anything new gameplay wise.
Also, if there is more interviews anytime soon, i’d like to know if rail grinding will function the same as generations or if they took the more superior SA2 approach and made grinding more involved in some kind of way. Perhaps leaning with the triggers.
If Eggman finally achieved his prime objective of beating Sonic and conquering the world, Sonic during all this time could have been gone away on an extended vacation visiting Emerald Coast or some other scenic area, he could have been finally destroyed by Eggman in battle, or he could have been sent back in time or into another dimension by Eggman… like someone said, the posssibilities… are never-ending. Unless, of course, the Sonic social media has been feeding us the clues all along that answer this mystery which now only the ingenious Chaotix Detective Agency could unravel. We could have the answer to this cryptic, nebulous teaser tweet right in front of our noses for all we know! Quick, someone hop to it and comb over the clues and make sure we have not left a stone unturned. Aaron recently said there was something to all the clues they have been intermingling in the social media posts here and there, and now may be the time to begin to try to piece it all together!
Doing something directly tied to Sonic Mania no doubt.
Definitely Sonic Chronicles.
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I still think that Sonic Forces is set in an alternate dimension
Nice to know that the genius right-hand fox, the supernatural martial artist, the band of surprisingly accurate and sneaky detectives, the government agent and a literal ultimate life form( and Amy)were absolutely helpless to stop Eggman in Sonic’s absence.
They’ve taken the most common flanderized parody of modern Sonic in relation to his friends and made it canon.
Or Eggman finally had a plan that was foolproof.
Don’t overthink it. Eggman finally got his shit together and hit Sonic HARD. So he ran away. Probably to regroup plan a counter attack.
Simple and to the point.
Plot Twist:
What if Eggman’s past ‘failures’ were a ploy to bolster’s Sonic’s confidence to a point like we see in most recent games, while secretly amassing an army of his greatest inventions. Even using the data Metal Sonic got on him and his friends from Sonic Heroes to take down the others.Even going so far as to making use of that Chaos Emerald extraction machine he used on Super Sonic in Unleashed.
Okay quite the stretch, but it would put Eggman’s supposed 300 IQ to good use.
My guess, Eggman used some time travel device to send Sonic a few months into the future, and due to a glitch, Classic Sonic got dragged in.
He might not fail, but a new character might come and save him.
So no old friends playable, many of whom are well loved across the world… except this new friend is?! I think we might see three Sonics, but shelving the classics for some new kid on the block is giving the rest of the Sonic characters the cold shoulder if you ask me.
What? this mean that there’s no alternative universe on this game like they said… so it’s really after generations? I hope this game explain everything
He might not fail, but a new character might come and save him.
He was sleeping for the last 100 years.
Tbh, I HIGHLY doubt Chronicles has anything to do with this since if I specificly recall, SEGA themselfs said that Chronicles is non-canon, and considering ST/Sega’s feelings toward most of the US-based Sonic stuff, I doubt it’s going to be suddenly canonized. It’s like saying Broly is suddenly canon because of Fem-Broly in the Universal Surival arc.
My bets, time travel or something like that. Maybe Eggman bidded his time not attacking for a good long while/used time travel to get Sonic out of the picture, maybe with a fake distress call of some sorts knowing he’d take the bait? Whist that had been happening he had been piecing something big in secret. And when he hit, he hit HARD.
I said it before and I’ll say it again, I really hope that there’s a way to gain some kinda good future/bad future endings in here ala CD depending on how well you do in-game. It’d be kinda like Shin Budokai Another Road, how you had to defend certain cities in stages. Instead in here, how well you do in each stage and whether or not you get all the Chaos Emeralds, you get the better or worse ending.
Off topic: SEGA should have done an actual HD remake of Sonic Adventure. Even using the original voice acting, recreating and polishing the original graphical assets for 4K/1080P would go a LONG way.
So the whole world was conquered by Eggman, that would mean Sonic was either stuck in another completely different world or as some point out he was stuck in another time, the latter seems more unlikely though as he is receiving help from his friends (or at least radio support lol) so if the future was rewritten without him in it his friends wouldn’t recognize him or wouldn’t be willing to help him so eagerly.
This definitely feels a lot like the Sonic Chronicles cliffhanger, maybe Sonic Team took some of the scrapped ideas from the cancelled sequel, there are a lot of possible directions this plot could go though I can’t shake off the feeling that Blaze, Silver and Eggman Nega are involved in the story.
Actually, if you look closely on the gameplay footage, the Egg Pawns we see Sonic attcking in the city seem to be of a different color scheme than the usual orange/yellow with blue eyes. So that theory may just be somewhat plausable along with the fact that Classic Sonic returning could have some time travel/inter-dimensional hoopla going on.
Yeah I noticed, it doesn’t necessarily means is not Eggman but it’s still possible is someone else.
And assuming this game is written at least decently they would need to explain how Eggman got to conquer the world by himself since he is always using the aid of others (Time Eater, Deadly Six) and since other characters like Knuckles, Shadow, Silver or Blaze couldn’t stop him, maybe Eggman has some forces himself in the form of Nega, Classic Eggman and himself.