Bets Showdown: What’s Going Down at the 25th Anniversary Party?

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1. Lol it made me laugh as well

2. I’m betting the anniversary game will have average to great gameplay with very polished controls and a style unique enough to be called its own thing, though I’m pretty sure I won’t like the direction they will take the series, anyone feeling the same?

   1. Also I’m betting they will ‘officially confirm’ these statements made by Bill Freiberger about Sonic Boom season 2 in Sonic Revolution:

      -Multi-part episodes
      -Ian Flynn and Evan Stanley slated to write episodes for the show
      -New characters
      -More character models
      -New locations

      1. Wait he seriously said that!? Having either Flynn or Stanley writing for Sonic media in any capacity would be a dream come true. OoO”

         1. Yup, go to Evan Stanley blog:

            http://spiritsonic.tumblr.com/

            Is about the 6th post, there is a youtube video on it, click on it and listen to it for yourself, they are a little vague when answering but at the same time very obvious about it.

            Personally this is the first time I’m excited about anything Sonic Boom related since the reveal trailer of RoL, hope they don’t drop the ball again.

      2. there will be a new sonic character in this anniversary yeah you know

         shadow 10th anniversary 2001

         silver 15th anniversary 2006

         classic sonic 20th anniversary 2011

         25th anniversary ?????? 2016

         1. Except classic sonic isn’t a new character

3. 06 as the punishment? Really, you can do FAAARR worse. How about sit thru the entirety of Sonic Chronicles story? Now that is torture right there.

   1. I thought Rise of Lyric was the new punishment now. At least Chronicles is tolerable, you can actually choose how some things go.

      1. RoL probably is just as bad, not sure since I haven’t played thru the whole game myself just seen some scenes and story summaries, but Chronicles just takes itself far too seriously and just has far too many out of character moments for me to actually enjoy it. Not counting in the pitiful graphics, horrid music and amazingly boring gameplay.
         I’d actually take Sticker Star over Chronicles.

   2. Sonic Chronicles story is good though, you’re getting delusional.

      1. I’m sorry, but a story that features Amy making up a fake boyfriend named “Dexter” in a desperate attempt to get Sonic to notice her, Shadow is suddenly some power obsessed leader wanting to constatly get Sonic out of the picture, Big is turned into a total overboard moron, and the painful attempts at making Sonic a “loveable jerk” yet all those times just make him sound even more of an ass than ever.

         http://66.media.tumblr.com/8d8ec1d3533058aa4b375223d64c95dd/tumblr_inline_o1h1u1csR91riafjl_500.png

         Do any of these options even SOUND like something Sonic would say?

         1. Absolutely, you are just pointing out what YOU didn’t like about the story, so what?

            -At least Amy is not overly obsessed with marrying Sonic nor being a bossy douche to the rest of the cast, she is actually very well written and contributes t the story, her whole fake boyfriend arc doesn’t really take more than 5 lines of the whole game, seriously.

            -Shadow is the leader of team dark so he rather give the orders himself than letting him and his team be ordered around by Sonic, Shadow is a team player but likes to do things his way and not Sonic’s way, what’s so new about it? Or do you want more of “you got dis Sanic!” like in Geerations?

            -Big… has always been like that… though personally I think this time he is genuinely funny and useful, all other times I have seen Big I felt is a waste of space (that goes for his appearances in any other game and comics).

            -Sonic has always been witty and sassy before Sonic Colors, also you’re going to the extremes since the dialogues in your pic show optional responses which are divided in good, neutral and bad, and of course you’re only showing the bad responses to Amy but in the same way you can tell Amy you care about her a lot and end up being his boyfriend by the end of the game (again, completely optional).

            Sure its not an award winning story but how can you complain about it after the games that we have had? But I guess you’re happy with plots surrounding Tails’ Wisp translator and Cubot voice chip malfunctions, or you rather have the Deadly Six instead of Amy, Shadow and Big, or maybe Sonic’s attitude is too much for you and you can’t stand him saying something edgier than Baldy McNosehair? Seriously some of you guys wouldn’t recognize good writing even if it were tattooed on your knuckleheads.

         2. Yeah, pointing out what I didn’t like about a game, that’s critique is, isn’t it? I guess we can just say the same thing about anyone saying bad things about any other Sonic game?

            And making a fake boyfriend to make Sonic jealous isn’t obsessive how? Hell, it makes her more petty than anything and tosses out the window that whole bit at the end of her story in Adventure where she was going to prove to Sonic she can fend for herself. If you’re talking about that one scene in Heroes, then that was one scene and it was obviously in a joking manner. The only time I can say Amy’s ever been bossy was in Free Riders, but then again, Free Riders stunk of soooo much bad writing choices.

            It still doesn’t excuse making the text out of character like that, Sonic is a jerk with a heart of gold yes, but these are basicly the equivalent of saying “Fuck you guys”. If that’s the case, then in Black Knight, Sonic wouldn’t have stopped Knuckles and Blaze from killing themselfs, in fact he would have instead went. “Just end it you worthless wimps!” I don’t want a Sonic that’s just the equivalent of a bland “Choose Your Story” character, I want Sonic himself.

            Shadow still doesn’t act as if everything should be under his foot, he’s calm and reserved. It’s just as bad as the whole King Shadow from the 25 year later arcs, it’s as if SA2, Heroes, and Shad’s game never happened.

            Big showed the ability to pilot the Tornado in Adventure, and one of the only reasons he didn’t land it is because Tails didn’t put in the landing gear. If he’s that dumb, then how is that possible? And it’s about as funny as anything Colors/Lost World/Boom has come up with
            “OH HEY HE’S DUMB! THAT’S FUNNY!!!”
            Big isn’t a genius, he’s just a guy that wants to sleep and relax, basicly a polar opposite to Sonic being the super adventurous type.
            It also shoots this little blurb in the foot.

            http://67.media.tumblr.com/3b2c5a9c12acb99dd9f41915f2868af3/tumblr_inline_o1h1ziZqUg1riafjl_500.png

            When have I EVER said that I’ve been happy with the recent plots with everything I’ve said? I’m one of the few that actually DEFENDS Shadow’s game. But there’s such a thing as taking itself too seriously that is flanderizes the characters in the complete other direction. I want balance to a story, and I want it IN CHARACTER, is that too much to ask?

            You know what GOOD writing is? Sonic and the Black Knight, Sonic Unleashed, Sonic Rush/Rush Adventure, Sonic Adventure 1 and 2.

         3. @RobotHobo64:

            Chronicles was a rushed, mismanaged game that suffered from similar problems that RoL did, IIRC. SEGA gave Bioware too much freedom, but their inexperience with the hardware they worked on led to a rushed, cheap-looking cash grab game that failed to do much research on the source material and even weirder, took most of its inspiration from Sonic SatAM and the Ken Penders-era Archie Sonic Comics.

            I honestly thought Boom was gonna be another Chronicles when it was first announced, it ended up just being Rise of Lyric that was kinda like that. The main difference in their rushed development cycle was that Bioware got bought out by EA mid-development, and were pressured to hurry up and finish it before it was ready because EA wanted the deal with SEGA to be over with as soon as possible.

            Luckily for us, Chronicles is not canon, and will probably never get a sequel thanks to poor sales and EA buying out Bioware.

         4. Robothobo64 and I had this argument already quite a while ago. I love Sonic Chronicles, but I played that game when I was nine or ten years old and it was quite possibly my first RPG. My conclusion to it is it’s best for younger/newer fans who don’t have previous years of Sonic riding on them. It’s possible to like it either way, but this is a big reason why a sequel would have done wonders. It would have smoothed out the rough patches and sharpened up everything else. It would have made Sonic Chronicles much more substantial, but now all we have is a lone Sonic Chronicle that either bugs people or delights people. (Of course it’s better than RoL though.) I’m just glad somewhere people are still talking about it because even I forget the game exists sometimes.

      2. Still think you overreact to anything, thanks God you’re not a critic at that, I didn’t see Amy as petty at ALL in this game, she made up her boyfriend just to prove Sonic she went on with her life, it doesn’t really feel that she is trying to make him feel jealous, actually she is very mature in this game.

         Amy have seen wanting to marry Sonic in SA2, SH, Sonic Battle, 2006 I think, the bad kind of bossy Amy appears in SH, Sonic Battle, Sonic & The Black Knight, Sonic Rush, Sonic Generations.

         Again overreacting, Shadow seems a little more pissed than usual so what? The marauders kidnapped Omega and have all the Chaos Emeralds, you are not expecting him to be all calm and reserved about that do you?

         For the sake of trying to not waste too much time in this I think you’re right about everything regarding Big.

         I know you never said you liked the current direction but complaining about Chronicles after all these years instead of let’s say Sonic Colors or Lost World? Makes you look like you enjoy more those games stories than Sonic Chronicles’.

         And to finish this post on a positive note I fully agree with your list of good Sonic stories and would only like to add Sonic Battle.

         1. I don’t want to prolong this argument, but I had a few thoughts while reading through it.
            For starters, I actually enjoyed Chronicles’ story. Sure, the characters didn’t always act like their main-series counterparts, but if you can set aside your expectations for the characters and look at the Chronicles story and what it’s trying to do, it’s actually not that bad.
            So I guess you could say the characters weren’t accurate, but the story was still good.
            I think there’s a distinction between characters and story, and I guess I’ll throw in writing too. Story being the overall outline, and writing being the specific scenes. For example, Sonic Adventure and to an extent Adventure 2 (which I’m now playing through thanks to the Humble Bundle) had good overall storylines, but the writing was often mediocre or bad, which might be partially due to hardware constraints at the time. On the other end, Sonic Lost World’s overall storyline wasn’t very good, but there were times where the writing was excellent. I think in general the writing in new Sonic games has been relatively good, but the story and characters need to be improved.
            Im not going to try to make an argument for Big. I feel like his personality is too shallow to be worth trying to put in most stories without either messing up his character or his personality, and I support Sonic Team for not using him in any recent Sonic games.
            Sonic’s interesting. His character pre-2010 for games and pre-reboot for comics (I don’t remember when the reboot was) was, you know, cool, awesome, friendly, good hearted. Which was great, but I think the problem with that is he didn’t really have any character weaknesses, so, while that’s good for him, it kind of makes the other characters worth less in comparison, and story-wise that’s not a good combination. So now, Sonic has weaknesses, which helps the story, but unfortunately he’s cocky and arrogant now, which admittedly works well in the Sonic Boom TV show, but not so well in the mainline games and ESPECIALLY the comics.
            I think Tails has always been a great character, so I’ll skip him.
            Knuckles needs improvement. Actually, his personality in the comics is spot on, and I suppose his stupidity in Sonic Boom works, but I think in general he’s just used for comic relief or as another side character. Not counting the storybook Boom games, Knuckles hasn’t had a really good major role since… Sonic 06? I mean, the whole getting tricked by Eggman thing only works so many times, and he never really developed much of a good personality after that, besides the comics.
            Amy. Amy Amy Amy. Sonic Boom was good for her, even if the writers occasionally messed up her personality. The problem with Amy before Boom was that she had been turned into a self-proclaimed girlfriend. That’s it. That was like her whole personality. In Sonic Adventure, she admired Sonic, and may have had a crush on him, but it was more like hero-worship than love. Then, she proves she can take care of herself. In Adventure 2, I’d argue that *that scene* was more of Amy teasing Sonic and not her manifesting her love to him. But then, starting with Heroes (and Sonic X), she started getting turned into an obsessive maniac, and it was only Sonic Boom that changed that into a much more natural, healthy relationship. Sure, she has a secret crush on Sonic, and he probably has one on her too, but Amy isn’t defined by her relationship with Sonic. I hope Sonic Team is taking notes.
            Oh, and mainline Amy needs a redesign. That dress does not work well in 3D, and I’m sure the comic artists would appreciate clothing that isn’t so hard to work with, if you catch my drift. (Rouge would also benefit from a redesign.)
            Oh, and Shadow needs to have an official personality. It seems like every game or show he’s in gives him a different personality.
            OK, that was longer than I expected. Sorry about that. Just my two cents about characters and stories.

         2. @MetaRyan

            Cool points man, I agree with most things you say, especially the characters showing less personalities before for the hardware limitations, and I have to give this one to RobotHobo64 and you, Amy doesn’t really seem obsessive in SA2, she asks Sonic to marry her if he wants to know where Shadow is and after freeing Sonic she tells him anyways, also yes, the personalities in Sonic Chronicles were a little off sometimes but let’s not forget this story takes place two years in the future and more importantly was written by people from Bioware, though I still think the characters were pretty good and the writing amazing.

            About Sonic personality before and after Colors I can’t fully agree with you, I think Sonic had a very interesting personality and loved how it was explored in each game, the main problem was that some games didn’t have much character development and people tend to judge Sonic only because of those but there are those rare gems that people tend to ignore like Sonic Battle, the Rush games, both story book games (more Black Knight than Secret Rings) where they developed his personality more and in different aspects, hell even in Sonic Heroes Sonic is so bland and just adventure eager but during the Final Boss battle he and Metal Sonic interchange some very well written dialogues that show their complicated relationship and their sense of mutual respect, Sonic even feels more empathy for him than in the OVA, ironically enough I feel like now he has less personality, all he does is cracking bad jokes (I said bad jokes because the rest of the characters think they’re bad in game) and rushing to action without thinking, all the character development he has had is learning to listen to Tails before rushing and to not trust Eggman (something he should have learned after the 4 times Knuckles was tricked).

            Btw, what do you think about Knuckles in Sonic Chronicles?

         3. @Raw
            Well, it’s been a while since I played Sonic Chronicles, so I can’t remember Knuckles’ role very well, but from what I remember I think they did a good job. His actions among other echidnas seemed very in-character. Now that I’ve read the Archie comics, I feel like the interactions between Knuckles and the Echidnas he thought were extinct were more organic and believable in Sonic Chronicles than in the comics. While I’m sad the comics got rebooted, I do appreciate that the whole echidna saga was erased, since it was getting convoluted.

      3. my hopes is that i want it to be on all consoles even the NX hardware as well. so basically we will get the mainstream sonic game in no time.

   3. I like the game but trying to sit through the credits? That is awful. There’s not even music!

4. Vote #TeamNoah if you believe in your country.

5. >The Loser Team has to livestream themselves watching Sonic 06 cutscenes.

   That… doesn’t sound so bad, actually. 06’s story is a guilty pleasure of mine. If you guys REALLY wanted me to cringe, you’d have to make me watch either the cutscenes to Colors, Lost World, Rise of Lyric, or Shattered Crystal; or a few episodes the TV shows I don’t like such as: Sonic Underground, the 4Kids dub of Sonic X, or Sonic Boom. Just sayin’.

   1. One of the reasons I picked Sonic 06 is because it has soooo many cutscenes. Lost World and Colors have about 30 min each where as 06 has two big ol’ hours lol.
      Though I gotta say, using the TV show episodes would have been hilarious. XD

      1. You guys reacting to Sonic Underground, now THAT would be a treat. It’s probably the cringe-iest Sonic show ever made, and it has those cheesy insert Songs in just about every episode.

      2. Watching Sonic 06 cutscenes doesn’t sound so bad, of course Sonic story mode was lame because of Elise but is overall an enjoyable experience… unless you are planning to include loading screens as well…

6. I like how Ryan’s giving out more varied or specific answers. Kind of helps when almost everybody is agreeing on the same topics. X)”

   1. They are “yes or no” questions so it won’t affect his score anyway. (Yes I’m butt hurt because I’m currently losing the vote)

7. Since this is a milestone event, I will be attending.

8. I tallied it up and decided the winner based on who I agree with the most and it came down to a tie between Noah and Tristan!
   Questions 4 and 5 were conflicting…

   Question 4 about the boosting, Noah voted no and Tristan voted yes
   Question 5 about Sonic being the only playable character, Noah voted yes and Tristan voted no

   Me personally I think there WILL NOT BE Boosting and there WILL BE more playable characters other than Sonic!

   In terms of what I agree with more I’m gonna have to vote for Tristan against popular opinion even though the poll has him in 3rd place!

9. The first trailers for “Ratchet and Clank” and “Sly Cooper” were released three years before the movies, so there’s a chance we might get a teaser or a synopsis about the Sonic movie.

   1. Very true. Sony is involved in the Sonic movie, just like Sly and Rachet. We’ll have to see.

10. Noah is going to win this because like Sonic, Sonic Team doesn’t believe in staying in one spot, even if it that spot works. We won’t be getting boosting back and Sonic will be the only playable character as seen by previous console titles as far back as Unleashed.

    1. Thank you, true believer. I’m proud to stand for your principles and convictions.

       1. Tbh, that’s the one thing I hope it wrong about the predictions. If it’s another solo Sonic jaunt, I just don’t think I’ll be as interested. I’d be okay with no boost as long as we don’t get another Lost World.

    2. i bet alot of people are papering for this project and sonic team will be involved in this new game.

11. No bet on it them showing very little and instead leading people onto another date?

12. march 2017? thats where the NX comes out.

    1. March is the last month of Q1 and typically the month where you’ll see bigger games come out during that quarter so it’s a safe bet. Q1 however is not where you’ll see home console launches so I find their March 2017 claim highly suspect and very likely was made to appease share holders and will get bumped to Q4.

       1. you know, i really agree with you on what you said the first quarter on what you said does make alot of sense to me but i think it will be release in the Q2 for next year if some people agree with this comment then we might be able to see a actual release for the new sonic project.

13. Watch Big’s Big Fishing Adventure 3 be announced. XD

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