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Iizuka: “I Don’t Plan To Stop Making Sonic For Consoles”

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One of the biggest questions of the year can finally be put to rest.

Takashi Iizuka, head of Sonic Team, was interviewed on 4gamer.

4Gamer：
　実際のところ，今後のソニックシリーズがスマホ向けにシフトしていく可能性はあるんですか？

飯塚氏：
　もちろん現時点ではありません。今作はあくまで，ユーザーさんに親しみやすいプラットフォームとしてスマートフォンを選んで，そこに適していたのがF2Pだったというだけです。私の中では，家庭用ゲーム機向けのソニックを止める考えはありませんので安心してください。

Woun, a user on the SSMB, translated this and discovered that Iizuka was asked about the state of Sonic on consoles:

4Gamer:
Actually , is there a possibility that the future of Sonic the Hedgehog is going to shift for smart phone?
 
Iizuka-san:
Currently we don’t. Now this product only, select the smart phone as a friendly platform to the user’s, just say F2P and that was suitable for there. Personally, I don’t plan to stop Sonic for home-video game consoles. Don’t worry about them! And enjoy!
 
So there you have it. Iizuka, and likely Sonic Team, do not plan to make Sonic mobile only. In fact who knows? The next Sonic game may very well be on consoles. Stay tuned.
 
This post was originally written by the author for TSSZ News.
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    1. No, it’s for sure that they don’t want to crater the future sales of merchandise, instantly relegate Sonic to irrelevance in the minds of gamers, or immediately drive current Sonic fans away from other Sega properties through loss of good will. I’m not saying definitively that there won’t be another console Sonic game but this announcement is definitely not in line with the current stated corporate philosophy of mobile and PC titles. It smacks of a PR ploy of a development team leader that is likely facing smaller budgets and manpower cuts trying to generate fandom support to keep things going. I firmly believe that SS will amputate the console presence of Sonic at some point, but amputations are rarely survived when done in blunt fashion. Hence this statement.

  4. Ohhh, glad to see that ol’ bucktooth Takashi-kun still has some shreds of common sense.

    Let’s hope he ditches Wisps and 2D sections in exchange of other characters playable next. And many other things I won’t repeat myself about.

      1. Maturity flew out the window when people were saying Sonic Colors saved the series. Or better yet, when “being too dark” became an actual complaint and the only option was “make Sonic as kiddy as possible”.

    2. Yes, lets ditch 2D, something that made Sonic great back in the day, and oh yeah, let’s ditch the wisps, just because you want to.
      I highly question a lot of the things you post.

      1. Yes, let’s shoehorn 2D sections in 3D games anyway, just because the series started out in 2D. AND even if said 2D sections play nothing like the Classic games, but look like something out of Mario or Megaman. And before you say anything, just because it’s “fun” with them, doesn’t mean it is with Sonic.

        And yeah, let’s keep the useless, gimmicky, padding jellyfishes instead of playing as….you know, someone else other than Sonic ? Something that even the Classics did ?

        Please, get a grip.

        1. No, I think you should get a grip. I’m really tired of you whining on every post and trashing other people’s opinions.

    4. Come on dude. I understand if you don’t like how Sonic is right now but was it really necessary to call him that? I don’t object to letting you guys just discuss and all but when you guys start hurling insults that’s when I draw the line.

      1. Jeez, guys, chillax ! I didn’t threat anybody. I just called him that way innocently !

        P.s. : if I tell you that he was the main writer behind Shadow The Hedgehog, a game greatly despised by many people, or that he once called the other characters, Shadow included, his very creation, “sub-characters” that can be played as in spin-offs, would you be still so kind and protective ?

        Again, that was just a joke.

        1. It sure didn’t come off like a joke.

          And it’s not about being “kind and protective”. It’s about being respectful. Whether he made bad games or not that’s not really a reason to insult them over it.

          Like I said I do not object to your opinions on Sonic. Just don’t insult anyone. That’s all.

      1. Sonic 3 & Knuckles
        Sonic Adventure
        Sonic Adventure 2
        Sonic Heroes
        Sonic Unleashed
        Sonic Colors
        Sonic Generations
        Sonic Runners

        Oh you meant in the future? Ohhh you asked WHEN.
        Probably this year.

        1. He wasn’t responsible for 3&K
          The rest of those games suck minus Gens and Colors which are passable

        1. Runners is really good. Once it actually releases everywhere, it should turn over a nice profit to refill Sega’s pockets with. I hope they keep refining and reusing the Runners formula. This formula is simple enough that they shouldn’t be able to mess it up. Doing this, they can keep pulling in cash for several years at least.

    2. Sonic runners looking better than colors and lost world doesnt say much sadly. I also dont agree with that they should stick with an endless runner formula. Its stale and gets boring fast, Its an app game for a reason and it forfills its purpose as one, but to want this in a real game is beyond me.

      1. Of course, I did not mean on consoles. As for smartphone games, however, Sonic Runners is a lean and mean endless runner. I wouldn’t mind a spiritual sucessor or even more levels and add-ons than what is already in the cards.

    3. Everyone clamoring over Sonic Runners…I could care less about it to be brutally honest. You run in straight lines. Big woop. And there’s an occasional upward/downward slope, and a loop…that’s never been done before!!! It hurts me how bland it is and everyone is just eating it up.

      @Axx
      Let’s see…what to knock out of that list…Adventure, Adventure 2 can leave, Unleashed can go jump, and Runners…seriously? I know we’re off the heels of Sonic 06 part 2 but jeez, raise your standards.

      @HeatSeeker0
      I meant the next big budget Sonic, yes!

      1. You don’t really have a right to claim that other people’s standards are somehow inferior to yours just because they like a game that you don’t.

        1. He actualy has a right to tell people to raise their standards…..he is not saying that he is better than anyone. He wants better and are telling people to want better, if people are content with what they have then this goes nowhere. But it isnt wrong in any way to want better and try to convince others to want better. that is called progress.

        2. Freedom of speech…I have the right to claim whatever I please. People can like what game they want, but leaping for joy over a game that literally does NOTHING to advance the franchise in the slightest…it’s discouraging. Like…Runners…seriously isn’t even special stage material. I’d recommend Rayman Jungle or Fiesta run…they at least feel like the console experience on the go.

  7. I wouldnt mind if he reused the assets from runners to create a completely 2d game.

    I dont even ask for classic physics, but at least closer to Sonic advance 3. With all Runners characters. 🙂 for 3DS. And world peace.

    1. But Advance 3’s controls were awful
      Advance 1’s I can understand
      But when you have Taxman and Stealth working for you why in the flying **** not let them produce a Sonic 3 caliber game

  8. I never doubted it but it’s still good to have confirmation from Iizuka himself.

    I don’t think we’re gonna get a Sonic game on console this year but I’m fairly certain that Sonic Team is working on Sonic’s 25th Anniversary game as we speak. Let’s just hope it’s as good or even better than Generations was.

  12. You forgot the last part:

    “And we’ll be keeping the fan-favourite Wisps around as well!”

  13. The real question is: When will he release an actual good Sonic game that’s not a endless mobile game?

  14. The moment Sonic abandon the console will be the moment Sonic dies.
    Luckly Iizuka seems to understand that, now bring some quality Sonic game on consoles, that we received only garbage after Generation.

      1. Huh? But what about Sonic Colors? Sonic Generations? Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed? Sonic Lost World? Sonic Boom? And the 3DS version of all these games? I thought they were all wonderful outings for Sonic! C’mon, ya’ gotta’ be open minded Danidado! Don’t be like HeatSeeker0. That guy is the bottom of the barrel, and I don’t want you to fall there. Stay Sonic! 😀

        1. @danidado

          Agreed, Sonic Team need to amp their game a lot if they ever want Sonic to sell great again, to recover their lost fans and to ever gain new fans.

      2. @danidado

        Also agreed. I haven’t played Generations since it was released, but I bought a Wii Mini just recently solely for the reason the play the Storybook games which are having interesting and cool content unlike everything made after Black Knight. 😛

    2. C’mon, lost world was pretty good, not as good as Colours or Generations but it’s still a well-made game that can be a lot of fun

      1. Uhhhhhhhh……no. Lost World was horrible, and it’s not a case if it’s the 2nd worst selling Sonic game of all time, next to Boom RoL. And no, Colors and Generations were quite crappy.

        Why should one sacrifice EVERYTHING in a game in Exchange of gameplay ?

        That’s like buying a Rolls Royce online, but receiving an AMC Pacer instead. “At least you can drive it !”

        Yes, but I asked a full package or something close to it, not just “good driving”. Or “good gameplay” in Sonic’s case.

        2. >Colors and Generations were quite crappy.

          K then, seems you’re in the minority

          Also it didn’t sell well because it was on the wii u not because it’s a bad game

        3. @danidado: Um, the plot for Colors and Generations may have been lackluster, but their gameplay was still very good, so yeah, OPINION.

          @Sonicguy276: Ehhhhh, I won’t say that Lost World was “terrible”, but it wasn’t that good of a game in terms of gameplay or story, and I really doubt that that didn’t have anything to do with it’s poor sales. The console didn’t really have that much with the sales, people’s interests in Sonic and the game itself just weren’t that strong by that point. If anything though, it was probably a mix of the two that made those sales dwindle so much.

        4. “>Colors and Generations were quite crappy.

          K then, seems you’re in the minority”

          Then why are games like Bayonetta 2, games with MUCH SMALLER FANBASES, outselling Sonic.

          Answer quickly monkey lest you lose my interest.

        5. @100Rings: O_o”…………….Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh! Loosen up man, if you really feel like everybody here is wasting your time, then maybe you should comment somewhere else.

      2. “K then, seems you’re in the minority”

        Yes, among the non-brainwashed crowd.

        “Also it didn’t sell well because it was on the wii u not because it’s a bad game”

        But it looks as unappealing as a pile of Rainbow vomit.

  15. *Breathes a sigh of relief*

    Thank you for uncovering this information, SSF1991. At least, Sonic isn’t doomed to smartphone for the immediate future. Here’s hoping Sega’s PC emphasis means a day one Steam release for the next big console title in the main series!

  17. I if I believe in SEGA.
    the failed but shows that may arise is that with the support of all his fans can help, I’m grabbing everything possible to help SEGA, we can make Sonic and SEGA return is that we can, SEGA, Sonic, no worry, you have given us a great childhood, a life and have shown us that we must fight, follow, get up, correct our mistakes, and believe us, you have given us lIFE, NOW iT IS UP tO gIVE yOU wHAT YOU NEED!SEGA BELIEVE IN IT AND WE ARE SURE THAT REGRESARAS, “Do not leave me please SEGA”, thousands of children and we say what we say, but we have faith in you SEGA Sonic, SEGA You can do it, you can always!

  19. Sigh of relief? Are you fucking nuts?

    I’m personally burned out. How much does one team/company have to show how they don’t learn from their mistakes before someone stops them and go ‘No, you’re done’?

    I bet he’s the mascot of SEGA but get fucking real here.

    Fuck.

    He’s already dead.

    Stop it.

      1. Two good games does not suddenly wash clean the reputation he has had since Sonic Heroes; debatably since Adventure 2.

        If Lost World, all of Sonic 4, and Boom are not enough to tell you that SEGA can’t stay consistently good because they have a hard on for trying to reinvent the wheel with each game, then I don’t know what will.

        1. Sonic’s “bad rep” didn’t start until Sonic was stupidly ported immediately to Gamecube rather than the PS2/PC, where the majority of SEGA fans moved to. Once the manbrat Nintendo fans got a hold of Sonic, all of a sudden seriousness, multiple characters, story and content became an issue of “debate.”

          Nintendo fans fabricated this “bad rep” no matter what way you want to slice it. You can’t BS out of this…the “Nintendo needs to buy Sonic” mantra is literally proof enough..proof in a MOUNTAIN’S worth of evidence of Mario fans demanding the most asinine things of this series imaginable.

    4. @MM2 The series has been dead for a long while now
      These morons have Taxman and Stealth working for them and they don’t hire them to make a proper Sonic 4…and when I say proper Sonic 4 I mean a “Sonic 3 & Knuckles” caliber game that’s worthy of the title not that pos garbage Dimps put out 5 years ago

      1. You didn’t have to clarify on my part. I knew what you meant by having a real Sonic 4.

      2. Sega treats them like ants, they can’t even get updates for Sonic1/2/CD pushed despite submitting them back in September. On the last Segabit podcast Stealth confirms the old theory that yes him and Taxman wanted Sonic 1&2 on consoles but Sega refused that offer because of that 3 game contract.

  20. Well that’s what I wanted to hear!

    Now if he could only stop trying to shove the Wisps into everything…

      1. Well that’s good and all, I just feel that they are kind of out of place ever since Colors. If they ever try to tie them into the story again though, maybe it’ll seem less redundant.

      2. Doesn’t mean they have to still rub them in our faces. Working well =/= being fun or add anything to the game.

  21. So… a GOOD Sonic game for the Wii U is an actual possibly?! Or am I being irrational?

      1. Hence my comment. I know not to expect a complete turn around in quality, but they can at the very least get the gameplay right. It’s not ideal, but that’s the hand Sega dealt us.

  22. I hope they release something for XBox One. If Sonic stays exclusive to Nintendo I may not be playing a new Sonic game again, unless they continue to support the original 3DS XL (which I doubt as it seems even Nintendo isn’t.)

    1. fine, buy a wiiU. Xbox One PS4 and a PC are barely the same shit, so you grab one of those and a WiiU

      1. Except that PC is more superior and relevant than any of these consoles will ever be, especially the Wii U.

    2. Literally the only n3DS exclusive right now is Xenoblade Chronicles 3D, everything else is just “better” on the thing.

  23. Sonic still on Consoles?

    Heh.

    Maybe the poor old bastard still has some hope left afterall…

  26. Not gonna mean anything if the game isn’t any good. Or if it’s stuck on the Wii U.
    Yeah, “Green Hill Zone at 60fps” looks… decent I guess, even if it’s not my preferred style.

    But c’mon, surely I’m not the only person here dreaming about what Sonic would look or perform like on a next-gen console, right? As if I just want him stuck to Nintendo’s aenemic machine for the rest of his days? I want to believe that someone at Sonic Team is dreaming that same dream too.

    1. Aren’t console generations based on time periods not power? Also, to your other question, the 3 game deal is over now, so the games will probably be on the PS4/Xbox One at some point. That being said, I’d still like to see Sonic on Nintendo consoles as well.

      1. Kinda I guess but every console generation has seen a leap in technology. PS2 more powerful than PS1, PS3 more powerful than PS2 and so on. The only exception is Nintendo who basically stalled in tech progression for the 7th generation making a console only slightly more powerful than the GameCube, then made a jump with 8th, making something only slightly more powerful than a 360 (or PS3?).

        Also, I want Sonic on PS4. I NEED Sonic on PS4. But nothing I’ve heard from anyone at Sonic Team is giving me positive vibes. Aaron Webber himself said in his “infinite wisdom” that Sonics fanbase was “all on Nintendo”. (With nothing more than the sales numbers of exclusive titles exclusively on Nintendo consoles and handhelds to back up this erroneous claim, but I digress.) Doesn’t give me the most positive outlook.
        http://www.tssznews.com/2013/09/25/webber-nintendo-clearly-where-our-audience-is-for-sonic/
        Nintendo gamers want a Sonic game for their system? I’m not saying they can’t. I just don’t want to be in a position where I have to buy a Nintendo console specifically for Sonic. Especially if the game ends up being disappointing.

  27. I’m glad the Sonic is staying on consoles. What I don’t like is that Iizuka doesn’t plan to stop making them. He hasn’t made many good decisions for the series since 2010. Aside from Generations and Acts 1 and 2 of Colors’ stages (lol), everything has been a swing and a miss.

  28. Stop using the wisp in every game though! They didn’t really do much for colors except give the player something different to do when they didn’t want to just run and jump with sonic. Which is what the other playable characters were meant to be. Im sick of all these bad decisions they have been making.
    They are hanging on a thread here. Could you imagine if they released a sonic game for xbone, pc, ps4 and wiiu this year and it was as mediocre as lost world? We are tapping our feet waaiittiiinnng for a good follow up to generations and theres only so many stumbles they can make until we just wont be waiting anymore. Im ready to give up and throw in the towel if they don’t get this next game right. I’ll play runners and watch the movie if thats still a thing, but this next game needs to just not be a bad game. Lost world was a bad game. Im sorry to whoever liked it, but it was. So all they have to do is make something thats better than lost world. I don’t care if the tone is kiddy and boring, or if the wisp are back, or if the levels are uninspired, or if the voice acting is not funny, stupid and annoying. These things won’t kill the series for me so long as they get the gameplay right. Get your sh*t together sonic team. Get prope and naka to help you if you must, but get it done and get it right. Because right now you have two and a half strikes. Just one, just one more tiny little mess up that is a poor game and you might as well kiss your fans bye bye. Kids can grew away from bad games pretty fast. Nobody will remember mediocre 10 years from now. So last chance sonic. Live and learn or fail and die.

    1. If you’re sick of the bad decisions then stop buying the games.

      That’s all you have to do.

      1. You’d have to be a zoo chimp to be buying Sonic games at this point.

        Demanding better is the best course of action.

      2. I haven’t bought the games. Lost world was just given to me. Last game i bought with my money was generations. I still feel like thats playing a very small factor into what kind of game Iizuka wants to make. Im hoping and hoping that the sells speak for themselves and that they are actually listening to the community, but theres plenty of reason to doubt.

  29. A proper Next Gen Sonic game should have Unleashed (or better) quality of graphics, enviroments, shading, and visual effects (Jumpball, Bue Trail after Homing Attack). Same for the animations and CGI cutscenes.

    Also, the stages need to look GIANT. You have to literally feel immersed by them. And still, Unleashed did it great.

    Wisps and 2D sections have to go. Badly. Or at least, be limited to minigames.

    Other characters must return.

    And the game’s length ought to be at least 7-8 hours. Enough of a vapid 3-4 hours crappy side missions padding fest (such as Generations), or tons of pisspoor short acts to “extend length” or just to show pathetic stage gimmicks (like Colors and Lost World).

    The game ought to be at least 6 or 8 hours long.

    Plus, have cool modes like VS, Co-op, Online. And not with those disgusting Virtual Hedgehogs, but with REAL characters.

    The story…..Enough with the sitcom/Johnny Test-wannabe BS. Light-hearted moments are accepted, but they shouldn’t be as irking as the past 4-5 games. Something on the lines of Heroes is acceptable, but if resembles Black Knight or Secret Rings, it’s even better.

    Soundtrack, as long as it’s not Mario-like or an electronic auto tune fest, I’m okay with every kind of music.

    1. These terms are… … awesome actually. I’d love a Sonic game like this. Make it happen SEGA.

    2. I was referring especially to deadly six.
      I liked all the big monsters in the series like Chaos (the best), Biolizard+ARK, Iblis/Solaris, Dark Gaia.
      The Time Eater was bad designed.

      But for once I want to see only Eggman as the main foe, a villain Eggman, and a super-machine he built as the final boss, like in the original 16bit saga.
      Eggman became a joke in the latest games, now it’s just a clown 🙁

    3. Amen to that one! Enough of the sitcom crap already!

      My personal favorite Sonic story is Sonic Riders Zero Gravity. It managed to extend the stuff established by the first game without feeling forced or uninspired. The gameplay was better as well.

  30. Sonic Adventure 3D Anniversary Edition for 3DS and Sonic Adventure 3 for Wii U, with wireless Chao Garden compatibility between both games…

    Why can’t you just freakin’ pull that off, SEGA…?

    1. Since the 3DS came out I’ve been wanting a Adventure remake for it right next to a 3rd Sonic Rush I hope at E3 they announce something

    2. Why still bother with a dead, obsoleted console ?

      The real next gen are PC and PS4.

      1. I sincerely hope you’re not talking about the 3DS danidado?
        How exactly is the Wii U obsolete? Outdated graphics…sure. Other than that, lately people have been consistently saying its the best console for games this gen.

        1. 3DS is okay.

          Wii U is nothing but a mix between a toy, a novelty and a pseudo-hardcore niche console.

          It has like, what, a handful of decent games like Bayonetta 2, Mario Kart 8 and Smash 4.

          In general, all 8th gen consoles are meh, but PS4 is the one with the most potential. Next to PC.

    3. @danidado
      3DS is definitely better than okay. It’s library is rock ass solid!
      PC is PC. That’ll never change.
      Despite your personal opinion and my total agreement with it, the Wii U is more relevant now than it’s ever been. It’s nowhere near obsolete.

      The Vita on the other hand…

      1. Wii U has a decent library. At least enough for me to consider a purchase. And that’s been a constant theme amongst many people over the Internet as of late. hopefully Ninrendo will continue that trend, and God knows they’ll have to if want to stay relevant since they’re basically on their own.

  31. Good now make Sonic Games like they were before Unleashed and you should be good agian.

      1. An improved version, with a plot and writing more on the lines of Black Knight, and glitch free of ’06 would be more than welcome as a PS4/PC game.

      2. Sonic 06 could have been the best 3D Sonic ever,…
        We totally deserve another try with the Adventure formula, the best formula for 3d sonic.

    3. Note that this photo is “technically” incorrect. Kabam’s post with link below explains. Interestingly, however, the information about the TV series, which Sega also noted was incorrect, actually was correct. So, YMMV.

        2. Here’s a theory. Maybe Sega had some sensitive information accidentally leak that belongs to these products while still in non-finalized form. Them denying it would not be lying since the products had not yet hit a ready to release state but that does not totally eliminate the legitimacy of that information, either. So the poster could turn out to be 100% accurate after all.

  34. I wish that the announcement of a new Sonic game for consoles (but please not on Nintendo’s consoles) would come in a surprising manner in the coming months after worldwide release of Sonic Runners.

  35. Okay, so you people were unhappy when you thought that Sonic would never appear on a console again. Now you’ve been reasurred via word-of-god and you’re still complaining?

    That’s it. I can’t take this anymore. I’m not wasting my time looking at comments from the less sensible area of the fanbase. The Sonic Stadium is a much better site if I want to have a decent discussion.

    1. Rule of thumb for this audience: They want to have their cake, eat it, and then talk shit about the cake they just ate. They’ll never be happy. If Sonic appears to be going away, they’ll complain about Sonic being cut out before it’s time. If Sonic keeps going, they’ll beg for his death. If a game is good, then it’s not good enough for them, if it’s bad then it’s par for the course with Sonic. If neither of those things are the problem, then the fact that it’s not Sonic Adventure 3 is always a good thing to fall back on.

      It’s never ending bile for what’s supposed to be a series they like. Some of the people here even admit they don’t like Sonic and just stick around for no other reason than to insult those who still enjoy Sonic. They justify their actions with some pretentious sense of superiority and knowing what’s best. Even if what they want wouldn’t be exactly the kind of thing that people would complain about.

      Not all people are like this, of course. But those kinds of people tend to be the vocal minority because they’re able to scream the loudest.

      1. Ok. Can you give an example of a really Good sonic game by the general public’s standards in which this community complained about? In fact, we often site unleashed as a 65%-70% a good game and we often mention it while the rest of the general gaming population called it a 60% bad game and a 40% decent game and has since forgotten it existed. Meanwhile, sonic 4 sold like hotcakes and the general press liked it while the sonic community hated it. So the ongoing theme i see is us holding up the games that are forgotten because they are arguably decent, but imperfect and us shaming the bad games (4, lost world) that the main stream media claims are good mostly because is has simple nostalgic wrapping paper. In the end, both the sonic community and the general gaming media shame all sonic games that are both just bad AND try something new and or “unsonic” like. Werehogs, swords, guns, wisp, undeadly villains, run buttons, slow sonic, bad character designs, glitchy bug ridden games. These are all things that deserve to be complained about and the sonic community shouldn’t be shamed into not complaining about things worth complaining because we have to love every sonic game in order to be a good fan. In fact, i can honestly say that i have no idea where this reputation comes from. From my point of view, every sonic game is defended good or bad by the majority of the sonic community. It’s a rare few who actually want quality in these games. So i have no idea where the reputation came from that we complain nonsensically for the sake of complaining. I really wish people would stop spreading that rumor. It’s not doing the franchise any favors that’s for sure.

      2. 9Tails2k still feeling insecure when people criticizes his baby…lol nothing new here.

        Have you even read the comments? No one is compliaing, everyone is releived.
        Take your period cycle drama somewhere else.

        1. Dude, can you please be at least respectful to people? Verbally attacking individuals is cyber bullying.

        2. Since you children oh so desperately worry about me in your circle jerk huddles and demand my respect, I’ll say this.

          Want my respect?

          Earn it.

          All you people ever do is sit up on TSSZ and slap the keyboard with your ballsacks, encouraging choices that got this obliterated franchise in the state it’s in now. You and your kind constantly scrape up any excuse you can to damage control facts.

          “Lost World sold bad because it was on the Wii U! Not because it repulsed all Sonic fans that didn’t suck on Nintendo!”
          “We don’t know the ammount of kids watching Sonic Boom so we can’t say manchildren are the only ones watching!”
          “Adults exclusively watching a kid’s show is fine anyway! Adults wanna have fun too!”

          You people can’t do anything but write everything off as an opinion simply because you can’t face facts. Brick-brains like MM2, Kabam!, 9Tails2k, and the other everhappy goobers sit here and whine about a fanbase thay they actively make worse by combating any shred of logic and comprehension with the “opinion” card and sometimes straight up lies to get their imaginary points across.

          We haven’t had an ambitious, up to date, state of the art, industry standard Sonic game or at least an ATTEMPT at one for close to 10 YEARS NOW. You intellectually bankrupt cretins CONTINUE to spout DECADE OLD ARGUMENTS and long disproven propaganda in the hopes of “getting even” with a side of a now microscopic fanbase that you childishly hate because they aren’t obliged to respect your autistic scribbles you leave on message boards. You DESERVE to be clowned and I will happily contribute to making you and the rest of these eyeless, slack jawed, bottom-feeders that stumble around here, look like the lobotomized antelope you are.

          Want respect you say? Be respectable. It’s just that simple.

          Run along and start a comment chain about how much you hate me, ok?

    3. You can talk with me and I promise I will never have a temper tantrum or call you “neck-bearded man child”–just treating you like a fellow human being with respect like everybody should be doing here. Unfortunately, I cannot promise that other people won’t butt in and be disrespectful but, like Svend and Tristan have both said on various occasions, this is the Sonic fanbase so what should you expect?

      1. And I really mean it! Sorry people are being rude here, BlueBlur62391, especially 100Rings. Tristan use to actively moderate the comments years ago, but t I think he just got sick and tired of it since so many people complained about it being unfair or so many people couldn’t control themselves. At least, the comments here aren’t as toxic as IGN. So many people there will straight up call you an idiot and humiliate you if you but mention “Sonic” or “SEGA.”

        2. Ninetails2000.

          Still, why lashing out like that? People can hate an idea without hating people. It is grossly disrespectful.

    4. I didn’t want him on games anymore so you can take the assumption and shove it.

      You just have to accept some people are literally just sick of Sonic games because of SEGA and Sonic Team.

      There’s no fine print; that’s just how it is.

    5. 100Rings is literally going in lol! He’s too turnt up! Name dropping and everything!

      1. As usual. It’s high time these plebeians were gently reminded where they stand on the intellectual food chain.

        1. 100Rings. You just can’t get right.
          While i can’t disagree with your views on sonic games and some of the community habits. The way you view people is counterproductive. A person is deserving of general respect for no other reason than because they are another human being. If you really can’t be onboard with this notion you really don’t belong in society.
          You have to be able to debate and get to the facts without making it personal because nobody is personally responsible for sonic’s troubles. If we had good games the past 10 years, i don’t think the community would be in this mess. So we have to get the games right before we can get the community right. But do always remember, some people just can’t get right.

        2. You have a point about respect being something earned, however, people are likely to respect you even more if you’re being respectful, and mature to others around you. Treat others how you’d want to be treated, right? Follow your own advice– all you are doing is insulting, name-calling, and targeting people without any provocation. Who would want to show respect to someone like that? What on Earth provoked you? What on Earth does everyone here have to do to be on your good side? Blindly agree with you? Not have their own views, or voice?
          How is anything you are doing (or saying) going to make the community better?

          Yes, fan communities can be ridiculous, and have very different opinions– welcome to fandoms. Like it or not, everyone is entitled to one. No matter how low, or high their standards are, shooting their opinions down doesn’t make you the better person. You’re going to have to learn to accept others may not have the same opinions, standards, and ideals as you. You can’t blame the fans since everyone has completely different ideas for how Sonic should/should not be.
          Blame the ones making the games. What happens is in their hands. Last I checked, nobody asked for something like Sonic Lost World, or Sonic Boom. SEGA made those choices, for better or worse.
          Facts, as you may deem them to be, are fine! When you’re not going around aggressively shoving them in everyone’s faces, or using them to bring people down.

        3. Luckily, I do not see people as inferior, third estate human refuse as you do–I see them as equals. I could easily be like you if I wanted to, seeing how I am on track thanks to scholarships, internships and academics to be employed as a computer engineer and make a six-figure income my first year of employment in a couple years from now. But do I let my salary and my education set me on a pedestal above everyone else as if pomp and circumstance were the real judge of people’s worth?

          Some of the greatest people I have ever met live do not hold doctoral degrees or possess millions of dollars but live in small, secluded and overrun towns in Brazil, where they give literally everything they own–to the last very centavo and camisa–to help each other, they put less stock in imaginary play things and more weight in real people, and they have real common sense and no non-sense spunk because of it. Yes, these are real people I have become live long friends with and who I grew to admire, love and respect as I served as a missionary there for two years.

          But I suppose you thinking you are always right, that no one else can offer an alternate viewpoint that is actually better than your own and that your opinion trumps the value of all other human life is all that truly matters to you. What a real pitiful, sorry, despicable person. You really don’t have much to live for if all you have is just you and yourself and that is it.

  36. This is a good thing….I guess. Get us out an honest to God, non rehash, non nostalgia hogging Sonic game and then we’ll talk, Iizuka.

  37. Yes! No more Wii U games! We’ve already had enough of that crap and look what happened! We got three Sonic games that sucks very much! But now we move on to Xbox One and PS4, the consoles that are good for Sonic games.

    2. Yes. I’m sick and tired of backwards, draconian Nintendo inserting their incompetent penises snugly up Sonic’s spiny rectum.

      I want a REAL next gen Sonic game on a REAL next gen console, not a Nintenbox360 with less features and fun.

      Better yet, Sonic needs to establish his presence on Steam with good games that the PC audience can get into. At this point, ignoring Steam equals certain death. Xenoverse being put on Steam felt really unbelievable but Namco/Bandai saw what they were gonna miss out on and stuck the game on Steam. Smart decision.

      1. Why do people keep assuming Nintendo makes the bad decisions for Sega’s game design when it’s clear that Sega needs no help in that department? Nintendo didn’t fuck up Bayonetta or Wonderful 101 or Fatal Frame or any number of other projects they bankroll(ed), why is it assumed that this instance is Nintendo’s fault? Furthermore, people are sitting here praising other Nintendo exclusive Sonics that weren’t terrible. Pick a side.

        1. That wasn’t my point. I was saying that Sonic Team, lately, has been recycling Nintendo design trademarks into Sonic games which has failed resoundingly. Bayonetta has an identity and is willing to stick with it, unlike Sonic who has been, up and down the experimentation road far too many times. Sonic is changing more like a shallow Nintendo on a fundamental level. On Steam or PS4 or XFailOne, such tactics won’t work. That’s it.

        2. @100rings
          I see. Well, I apologize for directing my post at you, my mistake. Still, it’s annoying to see other people try to shift the blame here, the point of my post is still relevant. Though I swear someone else said basically this already, except on the franchise as a whole, I think it was you actually.

        1. When it is a dedicated GPU die which shares the same physical package as the CPU die, which you purposely left out in your comment to confuse and humiliate people here. Please educate and inform, don’t play childish cat and mouse games simply to troll.

  39. *sigh*so many negative comments. Why am I not surprised? I get it, sonics games haven’t been good as of late. But come on people, can’t you at least try to be more positive? What’s negativity gonna help? Nothing. If your a real sonic fan you’ll at least wait and see info for the next console game. Yes rise of lyric was crap. But tell me, What tie in game doesn’t suck? Get over it and move on. I for one am curious to see what the next big game will bring to the table. Especially with the 25th anniversary next year.

    1. Kinda hard to be optimistic when they’ve had about 5 games now, that have dropped substantially in quality with each iteration, to get it right. Even simplistic shit like Dash and Runners can’t show an inch of quality! What will optimism do? Unleashed, Colors, and Generations showed a tiny glimpse that things could slowly be turning around. And we mostly showed our appreciation towards those games. What happens…when we showed that blip of optimism…somehow we’re right back to trash.

      1. You’re right! Let’s just give up all together! That will totally get things moving! 😀

        1. Hero…and I mean this with absolutely no pun intended…it’s no use. Why are you still giving your money to a company that doesn’t work hard for you?

    2. Lol Its the sonic fanbase. Were you really expecting fair conversations here? There will always be a warzone whenever sonic is mentioned. Personally, it doesn’t bother me. In fact I’m having a great time reading these arguments.

  40. Alright listen up, I want everyone to forget what they said and renew the whole conversation.

    Don’t let one guy act like everything sucks ruin everything, and never call anyone out. Remember these rules and you will be cool.

  41. Sigh. I was hoping I wouldn’t have to step in.

    Since Tristan stepped back, I’d say I’ve been pretty lenient in what I censor or don’t allow in the comments; everyone has a right to speak their mind. That said, I also don’t want to see our comments sections devolve into heated or personal attack rants like this. I’m not going to go all nanny-state and start censoring every little insult or controversial statement, but I (and lots of others, I’m sure) would like to see things be a little more civil and on-topic.

    That’s my two cents. As you were.

  42. Bottomless Pits: the final frontier. These are the voyages of SEGA Enterprises. Its three-game deal: to explore strange new mechanics, to rip off Mario Galaxy and PS2 platformers, to boldly suck like no dev has sucked before.

    2. As much as I wish this wasn’t true, it is. And my inner Trekkie fan applauds your flawless parody.

    1. You’ve gt it backwards. Since he became the main produce, he did nothing but making dumb choices over dumb choices. Apart from this one.

      1. At least the games aren’t as bad as they were during the time when he was the director. Those suffered from bad choices even worse.

  44. Thank goodness. Sonic Boom might have been hardcore crap but I still have faith Sonic will get his spiny act together

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