The Teased IDW Sonic Character Is Tangle The Lemur, Sonic #4 Cover Revealed

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1. I’m not happy ian/idw, you know who tangle looks like in silhouette. All I wanted was one small visual confirmation that certain cartoon/comic characters would return in the future, didn’t have to be in the first 15+ issues. Instead ya’ll decided to screw with certain fans to hype up a forces oc advertised with the bland as bread forces eggman robots.

   Now I get to return to not giving a shit for the comics, what a start to 2018.

   1. Stop it, why would they want to trick and be mean to fans?
      Remember that Sonic characters are in general very similar in design. If they did that with Sonic also, people would have guessed Shadow, or Scourge.

      1. tangle’s silhouette looks similar to sally > reveal > tangle looks slightly like sally > end of story. If they aren’t trolling then tell us if the other damn characters are in or not, no more leading on.

         I see the crap you keep posting on stadium. I’m not going any further with you.

         1. In what way is Tangle like Sally in design at all, what the hell are you seeing. And keep in mind IDW and Ian never promised that Sally was going to be in this, they just where being too vague and afraid to answer the question directly.

   2. It wasn’t to be mean, it was probably to be provocative. It could be to hype us up more when they do reveal Sally will be in the comic, if she indeed will be in it.

   3. You should have realized that sooner, the tail in the silhouette was too big to be Sally’s, plus if you don’t care about the comics then why posting this verbal diarrhea in the first place?

      1. When I “didn’t give a shit about the comics” that was during the odd stories/off model art days of penders/bollers/etc. Once ian and co took over I gave it a glance and kept reading from that point while filling the blanks using wikis.

2. As someone who is a fan of SatAM and who loves those characters, I hope they keep the Freedom Fighters out of this series completely. I don’t ever want Ian touching those characters again in any official capacity; not even with a kiloparsec long pole. I’m glad this is a new character, and not Sally; like some people seemed to want. He butchered the Freedom Fighters in every way conceivable both before the reboot and after.

   Concerning ‘Tangle the Lemur’ (seriously they can’t have full names; they have to be “Name” the “Species”): from IDW’s previous teaser I thought this character was going to be a humanoid Flicky character or something along those lines; in the teaser it looked like Sonic was holding on to a feathery hand, not the end of a tail that can behave like a hand (they already have me banging my head on my desk as I type this). By the way, anybody else notice that as a female character she has to, as Gameboysage would put it, cover her shame?

   1. Oh, please, Sally’s been butchered way before Ian showed up, so don’t act like it was an Ian problem.

   2. And I’m here to say that having zero involvement of the Freedom Fighters in this new comic series is like having James Ellsworth be the WWE World or Universal Heavyweight Champion….it is NOT. GOOD. BUSINESS.

      Frankly, it’s not a money maker, and the dis-inclusion of the Freedom Fighters from the Sonic franchise is NEVER a good move to make if you want to make money. Simple as that.

      And, to be honest, if I was to raise the Sally/Amy thing here, Amy Rose is kind of like a social enabler of Sonic’s worst personality aspects. It’s the same as a drug dealer who keeps enabling someone who buys that from them to keep them stoned out on that product.

      Sally isn’t that. She is, and has been since 1993, when we first saw her on TV, Sonic’s Conscience. She’s not afraid to tell Sonic what’s right and what’s wrong, unlike Amy who’s too stupid about that type of social tenet to really care.

      Sonic expands and improves as a character when around Sally, but doesn’t around Amy.

      Here’s hoping the Freedom Fighters return EXTREMELY soon, so that way, Sonic has his balance back.

      > = P

      1. Maybe by IDW Sonic issue #5 or later?

      2. “It’s not a money maker” You do realize that Sega makes money from the games not the comic

      3. Are you actually saying, Ragin’, that a Sonic comic has to have the Freedom Fighters to turn a profit?

         I think people largely buy Sonic comics because it has Sonic in so if the writing and art are good then it will be more than fine.

         ” and the dis-inclusion of the Freedom Fighters from the Sonic franchise is NEVER”

         What? Is this sarcasm? The FF have nothing to do with the games and that’s the biggest part of the franchise.

         1. It didn’t need to have much relation with the games. Tangle the Lemur is not a game character, now is she?

            1. Not yet, unless she makes it to Sonic Forces 2.

            2. Still.

         2. To be fair, we still don’t know what will come after Issue 4.

            But, perhaps we DON’T need the Freedom Fighters?? But what do I know?

            Why are Sonic fans so hard to appease?

            1. There’s a difference between “we need them” and “we liked these characters and want to see them back”.

            2. But it’s up to IDW and Sega?

            3. Yep, pretty much.

               Sadly, I think all the legal mayhem that happened with Archie is going to keep a lot of those characters from returning, if any of them even do. Regardless of who actually owns the rights to the Freedom Fighters.

      4. James Ellsworth should have been champion and you know it. Never have I seen such grace in the squared circle.

      5. I know SXSW 2018 will take place in Austin, Texas in March 2018, maybe in the Sonic panel there when they talk about the upcoming IDW Sonic comic book series there may be word on the Sally Acorn/Freedom Fighters fate and if they will start to appear in IDW Sonic the Hedgehog or a Sonic spinoff title or something like that to happen before 2018 is over.

   3. Are you having problems with the Freedom fighters?.

      1. NEVER!

   4. Sonic the Hedgehog, Blaze the Cat, Rouge the Bat……it’s almost like they’re being consistant with the games.

3. Well the official Solicitations are out and the new character has been introduced, time to start the hype train. Personally I am glad Tangle is a new character and that, apparently, they are leaving the freedom fighters behind. I love those characters too but between the various lawsuits and the sudden cancellation the series just became to tainted for me. They needed to start fresh with a clean slate if only for IDW to show they won’t make the same mistakes as Archie.

4. As far as generic new sonic characters go, I like Tangle a bit. The approach they had in designing her: considering her ability or definable feature before choosing color/species/etc gave us a rather neat little design with that tail. She looks nice, and hopefully will have some originality in her character personality too!

5. Her ability sounds interesting. Gonna have to see it in action before I decide my opinion on her.

6. Good-lord she’s got a better design than any of the official characters!

   1. I know right.

7. I think it’s just her color scheme, but Tangle looks like Tracer if she was a Sonic Character.

8. The Freedom Fighters are irrelevant to the lawsuit. this excuse is a pointless reason for keeping them out.

   1. Sally Acorn and the Freedom Fighters never had lawsuit troubles with Archie! I wish IDW listened to us and put then in the comic or a spin-off comic!

      1. We don’t know the internal talks that IDW or Ian or anyone working on the new comic had with each other or Sega. Maybe Sega doesn’t want IDW do have the Freedom Fighters because of the whole Archie mess. We just don’t know.

         1. PLEASE LET THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS GET THIER OWN COMIC OUTSIDE OF SEGA AND SONIC!

         2. And how do we contact Sega of America that we want the Freedom Fighters in IDW Sonic?

9. I like the design, looking forward to see more of Tangle. It might be interesting to get to know the game characters in their own setting as well; not introduced as additions to the SatAM/Archie world but as natives to this book. As such, Tangle fits right in.
   I believe Ian will steer the ship just fine. I mean, he managed to keep the Archie book afloat through real turbulent times and he’s got a group of excellent Sonic artists on the team, to boot.

   This will be fun. ❤️

   1. Agree, hopefully this will the start of a great book that will hopefully do better than at Archie’s

10. Oh hey, there’s Blaze!
    Maybe we’ll actually have her being relevant for once in the comic. Unlike the mess that was every single story featuring her in the Archie series….

    1. Hey I’m glad she’s here at all, but I am interested in what they do with her.

11. I knew it was a new character.. so congrats! 🙂 I guess Sally and the freedom fighters might not come back ever again. They might come back someday.. but it’s up to Sega first. And we should always respect them. For those who wanted them back, if they won’t show up again, then please try to be mature about it. Just like I did when Ken Penders’ characters were remove from Archie. So let’s just be mature about it, ok?

    1. But I wish Sally Acorn and the Freedom Fighters got a second chance at IDW in the Sonic comic genre! Won’t Ian Flynn or the head of IDW (David Mariotte) or the IDW Sonic artists (most alumni from Archie Sonic) ever listen to us fans? Couldn’t tweets and Facebook posts and even e-mails to IDW help? Doubtful for net petitions…

12. While I don’t have any hate for this character, my vote would be NO she shouldn’t come over to the games at least not immediately.

    We should still focus on the fan favorites, the ones that have been with the series for years and fix the ones who have been broken or otherwise dumped.

    For instance I think Infinite, the latest character, should be rebooted from the ground up which would result in scrapping everything about him from his character design to his personality and maybe his voice.

    The only thing I wouldn’t change about Infinite is his theme song because that song is rockin!
    However in terms of the character we got in Forces, he doesn’t match up with his own theme.

    I won’t have any faith in Sega to deliver with Tangle the Lemur if they decide to bring her to the games, but good luck to the comic book writers.

13. THIS IS BULLSHIT!!! We said that we wanted the FREEDOM FIGHTERS to return! That doesn’t mean just ignore us and make some pos new character as a way to screw us ten times over! Come the fuck on Ian/IDW get it right!

14. IDW still, repeat, still hasn’t decided if Sally Acorn and the Freedom Fighters will be in IDW Sonic! Should we all email David Mariotte about this? Maybe there should be a Sonic newspaper comic strip picking up where the Archie Sonic continuity left off, and that would have Sally Acorn and the Freedom Fighters in it.

15. What the frick is sonic doing with tangle in that first picture… I guess he’s gonna throw her? Either way it’s a biiiit weird.

16. Looks like a Fan character from a fan. That’s what I think of. but, that’s cool.

17. Tangle looks cool so far and I’m really happy that we are being introduced to Blaze so soon in this comic, and personally I’m relieved that the Freedom Fighters haven’t showed up in the comic, I like them but I rather have this new comic focus on the main cast from the videogames in a brand new world.

    1. Maybe in a future IDW Sonic issue? There’s also Sonic fan art, fan fiction, and fan comics with the Freedom Fighters – even Sally Acorn!

       1. Sally and the Freedom Fighters will always live in fan works, that’s for sure.

          But I think is very unlikely they will appear in this comic by the looks of it, then again maybe Sally’s cameo in one of the Sonic Forces prequel comics mean the Freedom Fighters exists somewhere in this world so who knows.

18. Yippee! Another waifu for the fanbase to ruin. Though she does sound like she’ll have a similar attitude to Caulifla from Dragon Ball Super and be the spunky tomboy that’s always itching for a fight with evil. Also finally a character with a prehensile tail (I don’t count Tails’ escape scene in Lost World because his tails already had to be prehensile to be able to let him fly.

    1. Also also is it just me or does she look very butch?

19. Sorry to pick a nit with Ian Flynn or the other creatives, but lemurs don’t have prehensile tails. I know, I know – there are counterarguments about realism, precedent, and games/comics, but still… *sigh.*

    While I’m at it, we also seem to have the Flynn-isms of 4-issue story arcs and rehashing games’ stories. I’ll give the comics a try, but if these reheat-repeats continue, I’m not going to buy comics past the first few issues. These are the exact same problems that caused me to stop buying and reading the Archie comics.

    If *every* story lasts four issues, then it is too predictable – issue 1 is Act 1, then issues 2 & 3 are Act 2, and finally, issue 4 is Act 3. I might as well skip the intermediate issues and only buy 4n + 1 and 4n + 4, e.g. 1 & 4, then 5 & 8, then 9 & 12, etc. If the number of issues per story arc are varied, then that keeps things interesting and the readers on their toes.

    And rehashing the games’ stories is a bad idea because if you’ve played said game to completion, then the story is blasé; if you haven’t played such, then the story is spoiler-filled even with a comic’s variations on the game’s own telling.

    1. well, considering that Echidnas look absolutely nothing like Knuckles, don’t have punching claws, and that Hedgehog’s CAN swim, I don’t think Lemurs not having prehensile tails is a big deal.

       on one hand, I kinda of agree with the rehashing of game stories, but on the other I do think Ian can shake things up to make them unique and interesting, case in point, the Shattered World saga, at core, it was Sonic Unleashed, but the werehog transformation was handled completely different (and in my opinion better) and he used the set up to flesh out and introduce us to the comics world (a shame it got cancelled right after that and he couldn’t actually explore it).

       If the first arc of the new comic is based of Sonic Forces, that’s not a bad idea in my opinion, mostly because the plot of “Liberating the World from Doctor Eggman” also fits the bill for world building very nicely. (Plus, Forces’s story have A LOT of points that can could be improved by Ian’s penmanship)

20. I’ll admit, the silhouette had me going for a little bit (the full one anyway), but looking back it was pretty obvious that it wasn’t going to be Sally. I mean, the tail. The freaking tail. I don’t care if you thought it was a hand, I did too, but it still looked so weird. It would have been too weird to belong to Sally’s basic look (what, she’s supposed to have Blaze gloves or something? Come on guys).

    The fact is that SatAM/Sally fans were injecting hopes into something that was already giving a clear sign that it likely wasn’t going to be what they wanted anyway, but STILL insisted on it being that anyway right up until the actual reveal. And again, I get being thrown for a loop there, I was there too. But to have the gall to act insulted and entitled to something that there was no direct hint towards in the first place, that just makes the whole fan base look more bitter and toxic than it really needs to be.

    If you’re disappointed, fair enough, but don’t have a pissing party about it, just take it in grace. Give the new character a chance, and still hold hope that maybe the SatAM cast will be included somewhere further down the line someday. And for gods’ sake, be civil about it.

    1. It wasn’t a clear sign. They didn’t say anything. At all. All we heard for 6-7 months is “it’s new it’s new it’s new”. That doesn’t tell us a thing about the Freedom Fighters, just the comic as a whole.

       A lot of these “SatAM fans” were also comic subscribers, fans of the comics.

    2. I understood the tail was the giveaway that it wasn’t sally, then the full silhouette came out and made things more confusing. Then ign tweeted “new character reveal in 12 hours”. I’m pissed that sega and/or idw somehow didn’t know or care what tangle’s silhouette resembled when they’ve been getting tweets about her.

       sega has more disappointments under their belt.than good surprises. That kept my hopes low and they’re even nearly non-existent now….but “knowing smile’ right?/s

       1. It’s in Tangle’s tail, and just wait until Sally Acorn makes it to IDW Sonic, if she ever make it into the comic with IDW and Sega (not Ian Flynn’s decision) approval.

21. This is their chance to have Sonic be a free character for once. Do not fuck this up! I do not want this to have a single shred of Sally in her. No Freedom Fighter leader, no treating Sonic like a child, no pulling rank, no monarchy, no charges of treason, no new main love interest, no nasty break-ups!

    This is Sonic’s world and series, and he should have as much freedom as he does the the video games. He didn’t need anyone like that in Scrap Brain Zone, not in Crystal Egg Zone, not on the Death Egg, not against Metal Sonic, not in the Egg Fortress, not against Knuckles on Angel Island, not as Super Sonic in space, not against Fang, not in Eggman’s labyrinth, not in Silver Castle Zone, not in Puppet Panic Zone, not in X-Zone or XX Zone (Advance series), not on the Egg Carrier, not with Perfect Chaos, not on the Space Colony Ark, not against Neo Metal Sonic, not against Emerl, not against Gemerl/Non-Aggression, not against Eggman Nega, not against the Babylon Rogues, not against Erazor Djinn, not in Blaze’s world, not against Merlina, not against Nega Wisp or Mother Wisp, not against the Time Eater, not against the Deadly Six, not against Infinite, and definitely not now!

    If we’re really going a new route with this comic, it had better be greater than anything we could’ve ever imagined. Greater than Super Mario Odyssey, Sonic Mania, Ocarina of Time, Diddy Kong’s Quest, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Super Mario Bros. 3, Breath of the Wild, Super Mario Galaxy, the two Adventure games, and Sonic Generations.

    1. Reading this guy’s comment, it’s clear that he didn’t read a comic in forever, and stayed light-years away from the post-SGW timeline.

       It’s hilarious tbph

       1. What does tbph mean?

          1. @DTH1971
             “tbph” means “to be perfectly honest”

       2. I HAVE read those issues, and not much has changed, not that it changes any of listed peeves (lack of a stronger word). The changes (based on the mandates SEGA gave Archie) in the SGW retcon do not make me any less strict about the above list.

    2. Well said! I agree

22. look remember new book new story, IDW when they were negotiating waaaaaaay back in January/February would’ve gone to SEGA and said what can we have etc, they also would’ve said what shouldn’t we do without getting into trouble with ARCHIE/Penders and all who may wanna piece of IDW for royalties etc.
    We know the Freedom Fighters belong to SEGA but if they are not important to the story at the moment then let them sit on the sidelines for awhile, let us have a new mythology/universe to play with, look what IDW have done with TMNT & TRANSFORMERS & G.I JOE they didn’t throw 100’s of fan favourite characters straight away, they waited for the best moment look at BeBop and Rocksteady in TMNT it was like 30 issues until we saw them officially, IDW know the whole legal thing and don’t want anything to do with any old stuff right away, if they appear in issue 50 that’ll be cool. And also I said this back in July if any character is created you can be damn sure they will be officially canon and SEGA owned from now on.

    1. And it took a long time until last year for Usaji Yojimbo, who guest starred in some 1980’s TMNT episodes, to appear in the TMNT comics in a one shot issue, but via IDW, never with Archie.

       One thing to hope for: Archie comics files for bankruptcy any day now, then quickly IDW buys the Archie assets, the current Archie comics line moves to IDW, then finally IDW can agree with Sega to use Sally Acorn and the Freedom Fighters in IDW Sonic sometime between the end 2018 or after 2019 begins more or less.

       One more thing about IDW: I’m glad Launchpad McQuack is part of the 2017 rebooted Disney DuckTales series, even in the IDW DuckTales comic.

       1. You’re playing metal gymnastics with yourself to avoid the truth: SEGA didn’t want to use those characters for no reason other than not liking them. They could have easily just rebooted the characters using the templates from SATAM avoiding anything from Archie and they’ve chosen not to. Ian had to fight with SEGA to keep the SATAM characters around during the soft reboot of the Archie book which informs whey they aren’t here.

          1. Maybe Ian should fight with Archie again to have IDW buy Archie comics and get the Freedom Fighters rights back.

          2. Of course, Archie once tried to strike a deal with Tribune Content Agency to do a Dick Tracy comic book for 2018 launch but cancelled plans due to some licencing dispute.

             Archie has the rights from Marvel Comics to do Marvel Super Heroes (Spider-Man, X-Men, etc.) in comics digest form.

          3. Maybe IDW should acquire/buy Archie Comics. Then that way Sega and IDW can approve Sally Acorn and the Freedom Fighters to be part of IDW Sonic.

       2. Sega owns the freedom fighters! And how do you know that Archie still owns them? Give us a real proof next time.

          1. It was Ian Flynn’s mind?

       3. Did he really said that to you? Post us a link.

          1. Not sure, you can tweet Ian Flynn yourself on Twitter.

23. I wouldn’t hate Tangle. Even there’s a lot of Tangle fan art now when the comic doesn’t get released with her debut for another 3 months!

24. Ring tailed Lemur huh?
    Madagascar cross-over anyone?

    1. IDW doesn’t publish a Madagascar comic book currently.

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