40% Think Next Sonic Team Game Will Be Affected By Boom Fiasco

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1. I don’t know about development, but the franchise name has been tarnished. I do hope the series will get back on track.

2. Another western Sonic cartoon has been added to the pile of horribly wasted gaming potential. SatAM only had Spinball, which was just a glorified pinball game. Meanwhile, Boom has turned out to be very much incomplete and buggy. Is there something about the western cartoons that automatically curses the tie-in game titles? 🙂

   1. To be fair, Spinball wasn’t exactly a tie-in. The SatAm only made one or two cameo appearances, but that was about it.

   2. SatAm *cast

3. Most certainly. With two failures in a row, critics and fans alike have every right to be pessimistic about Sonic Team’s next title. When the announcement comes in a few months, i’m expecting a lukewarm recption. Every Sonic game since 2012 has disappointed me. I’m giving them one more year to right this ship. If we have another dud by this time next year, then fuck this series. I’ve given Sega more than enough chances. I want something decent before the 25th anniversary hits, I wonder if that’s too much to ask for.

   1. ^^^^^

   2. You seem awfully forgiving. A lot of my friends have outright jumped ship entirely, and me with them.

      It’s rentals from here on out.

   3. i TOTALLY agree with you dude :/

      1. ps : im talking about Sonikdude101’s quote……..

4. Interesting…

5. While it will most certainly affect public reception, I hope it will also affect Sega / Sonic Team’s decisions. Say what you will about Sonic Unleashed, but that game was one of the most polished Sonic games ever made. And even though it did alot of stupid shit, it was still miles better than ’06, which is obviously the reason Sonic Unleashed had that much work put into it.

   1. Agreed.

6. As much as I would like to see a good Sonic 25th anniversary (I wouldn’t mind waiting until then for another Sonic game, Sonic needs a break), I don’t think it’s going to fare well, look at the 5th and 15th… the 5th was supposed to be Sonic Xtreme but that never happened and the 15th was Sonic ’06 and Sonic 1 GBA… not really getting me in the high hopes for the 25th. A nice 30th seems favorable with 10th being SA2 and 20th being Generations, but that’s quite a ways away and way too far away to even consider.

7. Honestly, I hope this teaches SEGA to work on other franchises and leave Sonic alone for awhile. Give him a break or something, let this Boom ordeal cool down and then announce another Sonic game. The credibility of this franchise has been damaged enough already, give the hedgehog a break for a year or two….

8. The funny thing is Sega does read these comment sections. But at this point, I hardly believe they do anything about it. One thing is for sure. Five years ago, the fanbase in general would not speak as skeptically as it does now in polls and comments. When a franchise like this disenfranchises too many times, it is bound to leave little room for optimism towards future efforts.

   Meanwhile, if the franchise’s direction hasn’t driven what few loyal fans are left to skepticism, other fans are barely holding on by their inner madness:
   

9. Am I the only one here that would at the very least like some kinda side-game for next year?
   And not Boom or another All-Stars game with a celebrity shoved in just to make it sell or some iOS game that makes every character a clone of each other, an actual side-game ala Sonic Battle or even the Advance/Rush games. Just give me SOME REASON to get a Sonic game on 3DS, and Shattered Crystal really isn’t helping. Just give Dimps a shot at something that isn’t Sonic 4 or a handheld tie-in to a console game.
   Heck, Dimps worked on so many fighters like the DBZ Budokai series or Street Fighter 4, get them making a freaking Modern Sonic fighting game already.

   1. I could settle for a new All-Stars game actually. Been 2 years now since ASRT came out. Wonder what the next installment would be and what kind of game it’ll be.

      1. As long as it can keep out the pointless celebrity inclusion and add actual Sega all stars this time, then it’s done a decent job. Really, everything from this should be what Sumo Digital SHOULD do for a new All Stars game
         http://xamoel.deviantart.com/art/SONIC-and-SEGA-ALL-STAR-WARZONE-333496538

         1. As much as I would love the idea, others will say that it’s a complete Smash Bros knockoff.

         2. I have to agree with DarkSGGamer on this one. Hypothetically speaking, unless Sumo Digital can pull off a monster of a multiplatiform fighter title that is as well produced as All-Stars Racing Transformed, it’s only bound to mar the Sonic and Sega name even more. Indeed, nearing or equaling Mario Kart in design and quality is one thing but even approaching Smash Brothers, a game both universally praised and incrementally perfected to a science, would be a truly monumental task. The stakes themselves would be such that the budget would be factors higher than Boom’s already exorbitant $20 million budget and this would be coupled with such high expectations from the public’s inevitable comparisons that the only outsomes for the developer would be either (1) a smash hit or (2) an epic failure. Moreover, if Sega themselves say they would do it, I can’t say I would have much hope at all with the bumpy ride these last three years have been and boy has it been a real doozy.

         3. @Hifihedgehog
            I personally don’t want Sumo Digital working on another All Stars game, I was rather dissappointed in Transformed, it just felt much less than what the first game had.

         4. @DarkSGGamer: Really? Most people I know and reviews I have read would support otherwise. Agreeing to disagree…

         5. Err… I meant “@RobotHobo64.”

         6. The PC version of Transformed on Steam has a solid 10 out of 10 score out of over 5000 user reviews. Sumo Digital overwhelmingly outdid themselves with Transformed compared to the just “great” predecessor.

         7. http://store.steampowered.com/app/212480/

   2. Agreed!! A new Sonic Fighting game would be great! Preferably for home consoles but for I would be cool with a 3DS version as well.

      Hope there is a story mode of the likes of BlazBlue, Arc Systems really nailed the story mode with that one.

10. It may be affected by Boom, but you never specified whether it would be POSITIVELY affected or NEGATIVELY affected. With Boom turning out the way it did, maybe it’ll encourage SEGA and Sonic Team not to fudge this one before releasing it. At least, I’d like to think so. 🙂

    1. The same Sega and Sonic Team that took the finely tuned Boost formula, perfected over three games, and threw it in the bin, opting to develop an all-new formula for the disappointment that was Lost World? 😛

       1. I thought Nintendo had worked with SEGA briefly in Lost World…hence the massive Galaxy feels.

          1. Agreed, and since Lost World was part of the exclusive deal chances are that Nintendo had a lot of control over the project, hence the overall kiddy look as well.

          2. That was entirely on Sega. Nintendo doesn’t tell developers what to make when they are under their care (read: dime). It didn’t happen with Capcom, Namco, Treasure, Next Level Games, Platinum or Valhalla Games, it didn’t happen with Sega.

    2. Nah, the intent wasn’t to be specific for this one.

11. Perhaps we can say that this year has good started well, fucked over.

12. (I Accidentally posted this in the wrong article. Moving it here.)

    If the Sonic movie and the 2016 game don’t amaze me, am 100% done with Sonic. Period.

    It’s infuriating to know that my lowly fan ideas for both gameplay and canon would singlehandedly swoop this franchise from the clutches of irrelevance and failure yet these business sharks with budgets starting at 20 million dollars blunder and screw up so fantastically bad, that it turns 06 green with jealousy.

    I’m sick of waiting and I won’t any longer if the 25th birthday game pisses me off as badly as Generations did.

    But ya know…..maybe Sonic’s troubles are purposefully orchestrated. If this is true, it would seriously explain EVERYTHING.

    https://conflictingviews.wordpress.com/2014/11/29/a-frustrating-epiphany/

    1. Oh fuck that guy. I remember that ugly ass wallpaper. What nonsense did he spew out his diseased anus mouth this time, I’m certainly not gonna READ it. Might deplete my braincells by the second.

13. I don’t think it’ll affect the Sonic Team’s game production. They can easily ignore it and focus on their own stuff. However, there are people putting blame on them and not even aware of Big Red Button. I honestly can’t really blame them, Sonic Team was responsible for certain games so I suppose it’s more of a first guess. On the bright side, Big Red Button might recover well in the future? I dunno.

    Hopefully the next main game is good. It might heal some burns. I’m not expecting the movie to be the greatest thing ever but hopefully it’s entertaining at least. :/ It might not be the case, the future of Sonic the Hedgehog is always unknown. You’ll never know what will happen.

    1. i feel the same way, even if the next game is great, it still will have an effect thanks to boom, i already seen on other games sites blaming them for the mess, not even knowing that sonic team didn’t make but big red button, and although that irritates me at the same time i can’t blame them sega/sonic a far from being angels and seeing what happen with lost world(which although its know that was made because nintendo but again nobody cares), i can at least understand the feeling people get about the franchise it’s just not stable

14. The only way I can see them being affected is if the fans want it to affect them.

    Sonic Team is actually fine as game developers. It’s the decisions of the executives that force them to change the formula and add unnecessary gimmicks and not put in enough content that are holding the series back.

15. I just hope they go back to the boost/2.5D mix, because that worked.
    Other than that, I’m not looking foward to what comes next…
    I enjoy Boom’s TV show, but I’m tired of all the wasted potential. Which really really hurts to say as a lifelong Sonic fan. 🙁

    1. I would also love for them to return to the Boost gameplay with some nice improvements, though I would love if they removed the 2D platforming all together and instead put 3D platforming and exploration similar to the Adventure games or ideally a perfect 3D reimagination of the Sonic Genesis gameplay.

16. I wasn’t too sure, but Sonic Team is going to have to make a game similar to Sonic Colors, if they want people to like Sonic again, oh and not agreeing to make a singular “Console” deal would also work too.

17. Sonic will be bullied by critics for all time. A Sonic game will never receive a 10/10 on ANY review site, ever. EVER. It’s sad.

    1. i sadly agree with this, even when games generations and colors ,sonic still gets the insults

18. I think Sega should take a break on the Sonic franchise. 2014 Sochi Olympic Winter games was the worst out of the Mario & Sonic spinoff, Lost World was to confusing and it bombed. And Boom SUCKED. Sega should probably go back to the Unleashed/Rush formula as that formula gets the most positive feedback. Or else big chance Sonic is going to have a lot of trouble.

19. Well i can agree that i was disappointed that when they FINALLY decided to do another TV show, they made it a waste & decided that it was gonna be another cheesy american rendition of our poor little hedgehog friend. I ALWAYS wanted an anime that based off the games and threw in some other outside scenarios. But hey, can’t always get what you want in life.

    Guys, i know i might get alot of hate for this comment, but the more games in the MAIN cannon release, the more i enjoy Sonic ’06 (honestly i was one of the one’s who was pretty content with ’06 & didn’t really complain too much when it came out). True, it’s HELLA buggy & the story is kinda bullshit at times but it plays like the “Adventure” titles, multiple characters, long ass story, Adventure Fields (or hub worlds if you will), and a last story. & the more SEGA ignores those features in future games, the more i appreciate SA1-06.

    Unleashed was the last good game to me, & would of been better had Sonic not been the only one playable & if the werehog levels were just a little less drug out & a bit more fun. Boom probably will take an effect BUT like I said, if Sonic team keeps adding un-wanted/brand new gimmicks in EVERY new game, they’re setting themselves up for failure.

    Not to sound like an Adventure fanboy but what is the most referenced 3D Sonic game(s) in the fanbase?? THE ADVENTURE series. They weren’t the only good games but my god SEGA we’re sitting here dying for the stuff that made the games good & they’re sitting here thinking creating new stuff is what’s gonna get it. I always say i think they got the wrong idea when everybody in the entire fanbase boo’d Sonic ’06. Cause once that whole fiasco happened, ever since then they’ve been just creating new stuff almost every single game since. Now Lost World’s gameplay was alright, i found it to be a good mix of the Adventure/Modern.

    1. Agreed! Return to the Adventure gameplay!!

       I mean the Sonic and Shadow levels were awesome, great by their time, why don’t they take it from there? I’m not saying they should replicate that exact gameplay but they should try to make it better, less scripted and more physics based, most of all they should try to reinvent the Genesis gameplay in 3D space flawlessly, something they aimed for with the Adventure games and almost got it.

20. The shadow of this failure will loom over the next FEW games that Sonic Team creates, probably even Sega themselves considering how they handled the release.

    1. Though it could have an inverse effect, like when Coca-Cola release a different savor (Cherry, Vanilla, etc.), people get excited, people buy it, it taste like shit and then they release Coca-Cola Classic which sells better than a regular Coke before the alternate savors, it could be all merchandising.

       Having say that I hope the next Sonic Team game is going to be good, at least as good gameplay wise as Generations, Unleashed and Colors, and at least as good plot wise as the Adventure games, if they go back with the Boost I at least hope they include some improvements like more open areas, 3D plataforming instead of 2D, a parkour system that actually works and several playable characters with the same gameplay and just small tweaks to diferenciate each.

       1. The rub there is that people have to actually like the taste of Coke Classic, which has been far from a unanimous love for years. What IS Sonic’s “Coke Classic” anyhow? 2D Platformer? Adventure-style? Rush/Unleashed? 3D-2D mix? Lost World? I doubt even Sega knows at this point.

          1. To me, there seems to be two strands that the majority want to see a return to: classic 2D, and Boost 3D. While there are those who want to see Adventure-era gameplay, they seem to be the minority.

             Which surely means the next Sonic Team game should be, in effect, Sonic Generations 2 ☺

          2. I would be down for that, gameplay-wise anyway. Obviously we don’t need the whole “Generations” bit again. And let me play as Tails and Blaze dammit!

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